Official Packers vs. Sparrows Studs and Duds

[George Cumby]

Studs:

Rodgers.
Z-Smith
LaFleur
Run Defense

Duds:

Secondary
Tackling ?

[Harlan Huckleby]

WRs were all duds. They don't play the ball well.

Tonyan, again, is #1TE worthy

[RashanGary]

Jamal Williams had 95 yards receiving. He's on pace for 400 rushing and 500 receiving. He's also elite in pass pro and was a lead blocker on a few run plays tonight

Blocks in the pass game
Can play as FB doing lead blocks
Catches like a wr
Tough runner

Does it all. Opens up the playbook. A big reason we didn't stumble too bad without our two top WRs.


MVS.... Sure, you don't want him to have to make a living on the underneath stuff. It's not the strength of his gsme. But it's nice to see him servicable in his least effective skill area tonight. Bodes well for the WR group when Davante gets back and even more so when Lizard is back too.

[RashanGary]

With Deguara down, might see Williams a little more as that FB type going forward. Even with Adam back.

[RashanGary]

12 plays well with guys he knows and trusts.


Jones (runner/WR)
Williams (blocker/pass pro/receiver/runner)
Tonyan (complete TE skillset)
Adams (complete WR)
MVS (deep threat)

It’s not a bad grouping to run or spread out and pass. I think that’s our best 5 when you think about Stergberger and Mercedes being the other two pushing for time. Williams just brings a better combination of versatility and cohesion with 12 to the table

[texaspackerbacker]

Studs

Rodgers - every game all the time THE number one stud

Jones - getting right up there too

Tonyan - looking like the best TE the Packers have had since ....... better than Cook, better than Finley, better than Coffman if he keeps it up, who am I forgetting? I don't remember a better one, based on this small sample of four games.

Lesser Studs

Z. Smith - much better the second half, but I'm gonna say not as productive as last year yet, maybe when we get Clark back

Jamal Williams - damn good all around player, but don't even think about having him replace Jones. He's strictly "supporting cast".

Adrian Amos - the best I've seen him this season

Jaire Alexander - good game, but I've seen him play better

Valdez-Scantling - did what he was called on to do

Savage - improving, but needs to get better yet

Just OK but did their job mostly

the center and left side of the O Line - not as good as their reputation or earlier weeks

the ILBs - good play considering the low expectations

Raven Greene - no mistakes that I saw

Malik Taylor - at least OK maybe better

Tyler Ervin - did his job, but I just don't see anything special about him.

Josh Jackson - sorry to the King fans, but I like Jackson better, although he was only ok at best

Duds

the right side of the O Line, Lucas Patrick in particular - relatively poor run blocking, inconsistent at best pass blocking

The D Line - not horrible, but basically played down to low expectations - Sign Snacks, cut Lancaster

Kevin King - I know a lot of people love him and have high expectations for him, but what I saw was him getting beat too many times in coverage as well as not being a very sure tacker.

P. Smith - basically disappeared

RG, what's wrong with Deguara? I couldn't find any info about an injury.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Studs

Rodgers - every game all the time THE number one stud

Jones - getting right up there too

Tonyan - looking like the best TE the Packers have had since ....... better than Cook, better than Finley, better than Coffman if he keeps it up, who am I forgetting? I don't remember a better one, based on this small sample of four games.

Lesser Studs

Z. Smith - much better the second half, but I'm gonna say not as productive as last year yet, maybe when we get Clark back

Jamal Williams - damn good all around player, but don't even think about having him replace Jones. He's strictly "supporting cast".

Adrian Amos - the best I've seen him this season

Jaire Alexander - good game, but I've seen him play better

Valdez-Scantling - did what he was called on to do

Savage - improving, but needs to get better yet

Just OK but did their job mostly

the center and left side of the O Line - not as good as their reputation or earlier weeks

the ILBs - good play considering the low expectations

Raven Greene - no mistakes that I saw

Malik Taylor - at least OK maybe better

Tyler Ervin - did his job, but I just don't see anything special about him.

Josh Jackson - sorry to the King fans, but I like Jackson better, although he was only ok at best

Duds

the right side of the O Line, Lucas Patrick in particular - relatively poor run blocking, inconsistent at best pass blocking

The D Line - not horrible, but basically played down to low expectations - Sign Snacks, cut Lancaster

Kevin King - I know a lot of people love him and have high expectations for him, but what I saw was him getting beat too many times in coverage as well as not being a very sure tacker.

P. Smith - basically disappeared

RG, what's wrong with Deguara? I couldn't find any info about an injury.

Tonyan “Harding“ could turn out to be a “Hillbilly” Kittle clone, but at this point in space-time, no fucking way Tonyan is better than J-Mike was in his prime.

J-Mike could run routes like Greg Jennings and break tackles like Adrian Peterson. A matchup nightmare: too fast for linebackers; too big for DBs. Two reasons J-Mike never put up monster numbers: 1. Injuries and 2. Rodgers had to also feed the egos of the likes of Jennings, Driver, Nelson, Jones and Cobbs.

On the Falconers’ first drive, 21 Savage pretty much bailed out Alexander and prevented a TD after 23 bite hard on a double move. Pass was thrown bit behind but Amos nonetheless prevented a TD to a wide open Ridley in the clutch. For the game, Amos and Savage were egotists (good), not egoists (bad).

[HarveyWallbangers]

On the Falconers’ first drive, 21 Savage pretty much bailed out Alexander and prevented a TD after 23 bite hard on a double move. Pass was thrown bit behind but Amos nonetheless prevented a TD to a wide open Ridley in the clutch. For the game, Amos and Savage were egotists (good), not egoists (bad).

I'm with the announcers on this one. It looked like it was zone and Jaire had short responsibility while Savage had deep responsibility. I think Jaire played it how it was meant to be played--which is why he never played catchup after the double move. He stayed in the short zone.

[Zool]

I'm with the announcers on this one. It looked like it was zone and Jaire had short responsibility while Savage had deep responsibility. I think Jaire played it how it was meant to be played--which is why he never played catchup after the double move. He stayed in the short zone.

Tough to argue X's and O'x with Tank. He thinks it means hugs and kisses.

23 definitely was playing shallow expecting help over the top. Savage was late on the read and got lucky with a slightly off throw. Good thing Savage is so crazy fast.

[HarveyWallbangers]

As bad as the defense has seemed to play, they've made a few plays. They are now 18th in pts allowed, 13th in yards allowed, 9th in rushing yards allowed, 18th is passing yards allowed, and 5th in sacks. Offense is way up around the league. The yards and points they've given up late in prevent has really hurt their stats too.

[Zool]

As bad as the defense has seemed to play, they've made a few plays. They are now 18th in pts allowed, 13th in yards allowed, 9th in rushing yards allowed, 18th is passing yards allowed, and 5th in sacks. Offense is way up around the league. The yards and points they've given up late in prevent has really hurt their stats too.

Agreed. The D is perfectly mediocre this year. P Smith has kinda disappeared from the backfield, but he seems to be dropping into coverage a lot more than last season. Through 3 quarters, there was almost no pressure on the QB.

Having a lead in every game lends itself to softer D and more stats. Ws mean a lot more than YPG.

[HarveyWallbangers]

It seemed Raven Greene finally played more snaps than Will Redmond, and I think that's a good thing.

[RashanGary]

As bad as the defense has seemed to play, they've made a few plays. They are now 18th in pts allowed, 13th in yards allowed, 9th in rushing yards allowed, 18th is passing yards allowed, and 5th in sacks. Offense is way up around the league. The yards and points they've given up late in prevent has really hurt their stats too.

I haven’t felt like they were that bad. I always feel like a big play is coming when it seems like the opposing offenses are making hay. And I’ve never felt a hopeless feeling like they’re just gonna score. The garbage yards and points definitely hurt us. Can’t wait for Clark to come back. Would love to see a full healthy defense going into post swason. We definitely have a shot

[call_me_ishmael]

I don't really watch the games anymore, but this seems like an impressive play from the undrafted LB who's name escapes me.

https://twitter.com/BenFennell_NFL/status/1313480068627341314

[Guiness]

As bad as the defense has seemed to play, they've made a few plays. They are now 18th in pts allowed, 13th in yards allowed, 9th in rushing yards allowed, 18th is passing yards allowed, and 5th in sacks. Offense is way up around the league. The yards and points they've given up late in prevent has really hurt their stats too.

They had a handful of 3 and outs last night, against a very good offense. They also held them to 3pts on that really long drive, which had to be demoralizing for Atlanta's O. I'm happy with their play against the Falcons.