Official Packers vs. Sparrows Studs and Duds

[SudsMcBucky]

Just gotta hope Snacks makes it outta Seattle without signing a contract.

[texaspackerbacker]

"Oh, and Tex, did you see that Rodgers is getting the ball out way quicker this year than during MM's day, and he's getting longer completions to boot??"

Not really, Fritz. Longer completions, yes, but quicker? Sometimes, maybe, but not always. It's a matter of circumstances about that. Did you see Tonyan's presscon where he described getting held, knocked down, doing a somersault, getting up and still having Rodgers spot him for a TD pass? 8 or 9 seconds there hahahaha.

[Upnorth]

Duds: not getting dillion involved so we can take a look see at what we got. This was the game we could.

[Fritz]

"Oh, and Tex, did you see that Rodgers is getting the ball out way quicker this year than during MM's day, and he's getting longer completions to boot??"

Not really, Fritz. Longer completions, yes, but quicker? Sometimes, maybe, but not always. It's a matter of circumstances about that. Did you see Tonyan's presscon where he described getting held, knocked down, doing a somersault, getting up and still having Rodgers spot him for a TD pass? 8 or 9 seconds there hahahaha.

I did. That's one play, Tex. I'm talking about the statistic that Chris Collinsworth put up last Sunday - the actual numbers. Rodgers is getting rid of the ball way quicker than he did in M3's offense, and is getting more yards per completed pass than he used to.

[texaspackerbacker]

I won't disagree with that except to say, sometimes he still holds it - because it's a good idea to hold it, and most of the time, maybe all the time when he does get rid of it quick, it's because of circumstances - somebody coming open quick as well as not having to run for his life quite as much as previous years. Forcing quickness is a recipe for interceptions, which, of course, Rodgers literally never throws - the most GOATly of all his many GOATly qualities.

[Fritz]

I don't know, Tex. He seems to be getting the ball out quicker, but it's because he's more decisive about where it's going. And the dude it's going to is often pretty wide open, thanks in part to The Flower's scheming and motion.

[KYPack]

I will review the All-24 films of the game and get back to you.

What good would that do? You wouldn't know what in the hell you were looking at, so why would anybody learn anything from your "analysis".

There are two types of zone coverages. One is called pattern. That is the type of coverage where you are covering an area of the field. Just as in basketball where you cover an area of the court. Alexander had the short zone. He covered his responsibility, lhen he released his receiver to his inside help.

The other zone cover is called lock (or match). When the offensive player enters your area of coverage, you pick him up in man technique. The newish term for this is plaster, you got him all over the field.

I see many on here slagging Pettine. They are goofy. Defensive lapses happen, but they aren't usually the fault of the coach. This play we are discussing is an excellent example of an experienced DC crafting a sophisticated game plan. His young dbacks are picking up on team play on their back line. Alexander is a brilliant player that is coming together with his backfield mates to form a solid pass coverage unit.

Why should we wait for your silly ass to analyze tape, you have no clue what you are looking at. Just go into your bedrooom and look at the posters of DK Metcalf and Mike Sherman on the ceiling and tell us about that.

[Zool]

Just go into your bedrooom and look at the posters of DK Metcalf and Mike Sherman on the ceiling and tell us about that.

See now, what you've done here is bring up a very important question. Does he cut out Metcalf's head and put it on Sherman's Pear Shaped Loser of a body? Or does he like the fatherly face of ol' Mike on a ripped up black man's body? I, tentatively, want answers.

[George Cumby]

See now, what you've done here is bring up a very important question. Does he cut out Metcalf's head and put it on Sherman's Pear Shaped Loser of a body? Or does he like the fatherly face of ol' Mike on a ripped up black man's body? I, tentatively, want answers.

Thanks for qualifying this, otherwise I'd be really concerned.

As it is, I'm only slightly concerned.

[KYPack]

See now, what you've done here is bring up a very important question. Does he cut out Metcalf's head and put it on Sherman's Pear Shaped Loser of a body? Or does he like the fatherly face of ol' Mike on a ripped up black man's body? I, tentatively, want answers.

T'Would be but idle speculation. But given your level of smarts and experience. I'd lean to the Sherm head/face on that rockin' DK bod.

There is a possibility he has a Deion Sanders/Josh McDaniels morph also, but that would just be a guess.

[texaspackerbacker]

I don't know, Tex. He seems to be getting the ball out quicker, but it's because he's more decisive about where it's going. And the dude it's going to is often pretty wide open, thanks in part to The Flower's scheming and motion.

We're not that far apart on this. Yeah, he's getting rid of the ball quicker probably well over half the time. And yeah, a lot of receivers are open in part because of LaFleur's scheme which Rodgers seems to appreciate and which they are doing with a minimum of mistakes. I appreciate all that motion and misdirection too, especially because I still don't think our O Line is very good at just lining up and controlling the D Line.

My point is that if you mandate getting rid of the ball quick, not just in good circumstances, then you risk interceptions or at least a helluva lot of throwaways. And the thing I'm most thankful about Aaron Rodgers about is that lack of interceptions.

[RashanGary]

What good would that do? You wouldn't know what in the hell you were looking at, so why would anybody learn anything from your "analysis".

There are two types of zone coverages. One is called pattern. That is the type of coverage where you are covering an area of the field. Just as in basketball where you cover an area of the court. Alexander had the short zone. He covered his responsibility, lhen he released his receiver to his inside help.

The other zone cover is called lock (or match). When the offensive player enters your area of coverage, you pick him up in man technique. The newish term for this is plaster, you got him all over the field.

I see many on here slagging Pettine. They are goofy. Defensive lapses happen, but they aren't usually the fault of the coach. This play we are discussing is an excellent example of an experienced DC crafting a sophisticated game plan. His young dbacks are picking up on team play on their back line. Alexander is a brilliant player that is coming together with his backfield mates to form a solid pass coverage unit.

Why should we wait for your silly ass to analyze tape, you have no clue what you are looking at. Just go into your bedrooom and look at the posters of DK Metcalf and Mike Sherman on the ceiling and tell us about that.

Curious, ky, in a match concept, what if no one comes into your area? Just stand there? And what if the offense sends two guys into one area and then they split off....

Seems like a lot of room for mistakes in this match zone concept.

[Fosco33]

Z smith gave up outside contain on a few routes last game. Seems like people see that and expose it as it’s happened a couple times in early weeks

[MadScientist]

We're not that far apart on this. Yeah, he's getting rid of the ball quicker probably well over half the time. And yeah, a lot of receivers are open in part because of LaFleur's scheme which Rodgers seems to appreciate and which they are doing with a minimum of mistakes. I appreciate all that motion and misdirection too, especially because I still don't think our O Line is very good at just lining up and controlling the D Line.

My point is that if you mandate getting rid of the ball quick, not just in good circumstances, then you risk interceptions or at least a helluva lot of throwaways. And the thing I'm most thankful about Aaron Rodgers about is that lack of interceptions.

There isn't a quick pass mandate in this offense, at least not more than any other offense. All NFL offenses try to get the ball out quickly for the most part to negate the pass rush. This is just a better scheme that allows for more open receivers on rhythm. The last years of M3 was run a two-part route so that when the first one was covered (very often), let Rodgers run around and see if the second part comes open. It sometimes worked great, but often Rodgers had to throw it away or dump it off.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

You are stupid.

You’re stupider.

Watch the film that Ole Partial provided. 21 Savage was in position to pick it off. Barnes came out of nowhere and knocked it away. Right into the waiting hands of a Falconer, in fact.

Play reminds me of another Monday Nite game. Shields was in position for a 200 yards pick-6, but Mr. Hyde popped out of nowhere and batted the rock down. Mr. Hyde was celebrating as if he had just picked off a gimme Kap throw in da clutch to seal a playoff victory for the Pack. Shields was like, fool, I coulda taken that to the house!