Official Packers vs. Sparrows Studs and Duds

[George Cumby]

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Nope.

You are wrong. As almost always

He pushes in, reads Ryan's eyes, flips his hips, gets to where he needs to be, fast, jumps really athletically and gets his hands on the ball, almost picks it himself.

The other two Packers there both had a shot at the ball, it was mere happenstance the Falcon got it. Kind of like the sun shining on a dog's ass. Kind of like a blind squirrel finding a nut. Kind of like the rare occasions you don't post something totally stupid.

[Fosco33]

So Z is nfc def player of the week w/ 3 sack performance.

I was thinking w/ the late hits and some bad outside contain that he didn’t have a good game.

[KYPack]

I will review the All-24 films of the game and get back to you.

I love Halloween. One of my other favorite things is a thread where

Tank posts a lot of stupid and wrong headed posts and gets rolled for it.

It's All 22, All 24 must be a CFL product.

[KYPack]

Curious, ky, in a match concept, what if no one comes into your area? Just stand there? And what if the offense sends two guys into one area and then they split off....

Seems like a lot of room for mistakes in this match zone concept.

Remember, these different styles are incorporated into an overall coverage scheme. One back may be in match technique while the others are covering their guys in pattern. And sure, if the offense has your coverage sniffed out, they damn sure will send two guys into a zone patrolled by one back. In that case, you just have to get to the deepest of the deep receiver and hope for the best.

An old coach explained to me that the principal of any zone is to provide maximum coverage at the snap and maintain it for 4 to five seconds until the pass rushers heat up the passer and stop the play. The rush men are trying to stop the pass so the cover guys don't have a zone too big to cover. Zone coverage is living on the edge. The D coaches have to disguise coverages and change things up so the offense can't get a handle on what they are doing.

[texaspackerbacker]

Zone is a distinct advantage against the run including QB scrambles. The main reason I want the Packers to play at least some zone, though, is that our Corners are often beatable in man coverage. Even Jaire gets beat when he covers an elite receiver, and just about anybody beats Kevin King.

[George Cumby]

So Z is nfc def player of the week w/ 3 sack performance.

I was thinking w/ the late hits and some bad outside contain that he didn’t have a good game.

I kind of accept those blown assignments and late hits as a function of his aggressive play.

My thought is that it's okay as it sets a head-hunting tone for the defense, so long as he's productive.

Doing it like Clay or Daniels with late hits but no production? Not so much.

[KYPack]

Zone is a distinct advantage against the run including QB scrambles. The main reason I want the Packers to play at least some zone, though, is that our Corners are often beatable in man coverage. Even Jaire gets beat when he covers an elite receiver, and just about anybody beats Kevin King.

Then you must be ecstatic with Pettines defense. He plays almost exclusively zone. He preferred D is a 34 with the backline
in cover 3 with Amos the post safety, deepest of the deep. The 3 deep backs in cover 3 divide the field in thirds. My guess is Amos the vet makes the coverage calls.

Amos is an excellent captain and post safety. He calls the coverages and gets the boys lined up and makes the calls.

It's a sound D and of course the 34 with cover 3 is just the basic shell. Pettine makes numerous tweaks to keep those offenses guessing. But he's pretty much exclusively a zone guy.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I am friends with Al Harris on the Facebook and I asked him about the Pistol Force. Ole Al was like, what the fuck is the the Pistol Force?

Nuff said.

[run pMc]

Then you must be ecstatic with Pettines defense. He plays almost exclusively zone. He preferred D is a 34 with the backline
in cover 3 with Amos the post safety, deepest of the deep. The 3 deep backs in cover 3 divide the field in thirds. My guess is Amos the vet makes the coverage calls.

Amos is an excellent captain and post safety. He calls the coverages and gets the boys lined up and makes the calls.

It's a sound D and of course the 34 with cover 3 is just the basic shell. Pettine makes numerous tweaks to keep those offenses guessing. But he's pretty much exclusively a zone guy.

This. I believe GB ranks in the middle on % of zone, which is more zone than I would expect because they seem to draft guys who can press and play man. I don't see them play tight man coverage that often though. If you listen to the Larivee/Rock broadcasts they will call zone coverage, it happens more than you might think. I've mostly stopped listening to the TV since they frequently get the players wrong and spout 99% cliches and 1% useful info.

[texaspackerbacker]

Then you must be ecstatic with Pettines defense. He plays almost exclusively zone. He preferred D is a 34 with the backline
in cover 3 with Amos the post safety, deepest of the deep. The 3 deep backs in cover 3 divide the field in thirds. My guess is Amos the vet makes the coverage calls.

Amos is an excellent captain and post safety. He calls the coverages and gets the boys lined up and makes the calls.

It's a sound D and of course the 34 with cover 3 is just the basic shell. Pettine makes numerous tweaks to keep those offenses guessing. But he's pretty much exclusively a zone guy.

I haven't always been completely happy with Pettine's D, but I'm not nearly as negative about him as a lot of people. I liked Capers too. The bad scenario to me is if we had a non-attacking D like what McCarthy's guy in Dallas has. You have to put pressure on the QB these days. The worst times for the Packers this year has been when they sagged back too much late in games or halves while leading - not quite a prevent, but close.

As for the zone stuff, I wasn't aware that he plays it "almost exclusively". Last year, it seemed like they played a lot of man; This year, I see more zone, but a lot of man also - or are my eyes deceiving me?

That 20 play 10 minute drive was basically what you get with that "shell" thing - keeping everything in front of you. I'm not sure whether I like that or not as a base D. It beats giving up big plays, though.

[KYPack]

This. I believe GB ranks in the middle on % of zone, which is more zone than I would expect because they seem to draft guys who can press and play man. I don't see them play tight man coverage that often though. If you listen to the Larivee/Rock broadcasts they will call zone coverage, it happens more than you might think. I've mostly stopped listening to the TV since they frequently get the players wrong and spout 99% cliches and 1% useful info.

Absolutely Run.

Very few teams ever play the old classic man to man/cover 1 anymore. Also gone the way of the dodo is the old cover 2 with both safeties over in support of the corners. Most teams play 2 high safeties (NE) or the 3 high like Pettine.

RE announcers. These guys see a defensive guy in an iso situation and tell the viewers that the defensive team was in a man to man defense. No, the player in question was doing his job in a complicated defense but the base defense was a zone. So the announcer and 98% of the audience thinks the D was a man to man.

Not so grasshopper.

There is an ex-player or coach in the booth that knows the announcer is a boob, but they aren't going to go on a tangent explaining the finer points and interrupt the broadcast.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

dbl post

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I'm with the announcers on this one. It looked like it was zone and Jaire had short responsibility while Savage had deep responsibility. I think Jaire played it how it was meant to be played--which is why he never played catchup after the double move. He stayed in the short zone.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Check out the screenshots. 21 Savage didn't line up in Cover 2 presnap. Every DB was in man instead for 23.

I am correct.

[KYPack]

I am friends with Al Harris on the Facebook and I asked him about the Pistol Force. Ole Al was like, what the fuck is the the Pistol Force?

Nuff said.

Will he send you an autographed picture?

Fan Boy.