The Official Goodbye to Aaron Jones thread

[GB-Brandon]

It rarely works out paying RB’s big $. The jets just released Bell. It sucks but they are mostly 3-4 year players. Just the nature of the beast. Occasionally a special one will come along but not the best practice to play that game and as good as Jones is I don’t see him as one of those.

[run pMc]

Let him walk, get a 3rd, draft a scat back, rinse repeat. He is a very good player and I will miss him but I view paying any RB that isn't Adrian Peterson-esque a second contract being a bad choice.

It rarely works out paying RB’s big $. The jets just released Bell. It sucks but they are mostly 3-4 year players. Just the nature of the beast. Occasionally a special one will come along but not the best practice to play that game and as good as Jones is I don’t see him as one of those.

Agree. They drafted Dillon and Dexter to replace these guys; I think Dillon will pan out. It's been proven you can find and replace RBs. They'd need one who can function in the passing game. https://www.pro-football-reference.c...scrimmage.htm#

They need players on offense who will win their matchups most of the time and provide some playmaking, whether it's RB, WR or TE. I'm less convinced they have the cap room to pay for it in the form of a 2nd contract on a non-bellcow RB.

[texaspackerbacker]

Dillon is impressive as the kind of runner he is, but if all you have is somebody like him or J. Williams, the team is a lot worse off. We NEED that breakaway threat as a change of pace to the passing game. Otherwise, teams will not honor the run, just play pass and sit back and give us 4 or 5 or 6 yards now and then on a run.

[Patler]

I think it is beneficial to have the breakaway threat, but not essential. Dillon has already shown he is capable of the 10-20 yard runs. That's enough.

Has anyone else gotten the same impression that I have, that Dillon looks a little lost when he breaks into the open? "What do I do now, with no one to try to run over?"

[Joemailman]

I think it is beneficial to have the breakaway threat, but not essential. Dillon has already shown he is capable of the 10-20 yard runs. That's enough.

Has anyone else gotten the same impression that I have, that Dillon looks a little lost when he breaks into the open? "What do I do now, with no one to try to run over?"

At BC he faced 9 man lines, so he's probably not used to a lot of space. He should probably watch some film of Derrick Henry.

[Upnorth]

, paying Jones 12 mil a year for 16 TDs ain’t too bad a value

Cap hell? What the fuck is that? All teams will eventually be bailed out by the Networks. New Deals are imminent and inevitable.

1) it is a bad value when you can expect 8 - 12 tds for about 11mil less plus get back a 3rd.
2) I think the NFL will be lucky to get one more large increase in tv dollars. Streaming has started to change everything for network profits. The golden era of nfl tv money is taking a final lap. I think...

Running backs are important but the oline is more important.and the system is even more important yet. I would argue that started in the early 90's and has been accelerating.

[RashanGary]

You know what’s exciting.... all of the people who have said the cap doesn’t exist get to see what happens to Philly, New Orleans and KC when you’re up against the cap. If the cap doesn’t exist, those three teams should be just fine next year.


But since the cap does exist, the Patriots and Giants look poised to take advantage of the up coming situation.

[RashanGary]

The Packers are still ok.... for a couple years while Covid affects the cap, they’ll be up against it the way NO and Philly usually operate. There are ways to keep guys you really want to keep. Just push it ahead until the cap straightens out

But NO and Philly.... there is no cooking or pushing or playing at this point. Only cutting

[run pMc]

Dillon is impressive as the kind of runner he is, but if all you have is somebody like him or J. Williams, the team is a lot worse off. We NEED that breakaway threat as a change of pace to the passing game. Otherwise, teams will not honor the run, just play pass and sit back and give us 4 or 5 or 6 yards now and then on a run.

They need it if they don't have other playmakers. Remember, this team won a SB with Brandon Jackson and James Starks. Didn't scare defenses but kept them honest so Rodgers could go to work. Jackson got overpaid by Cleveland and GB didn't miss a beat.

I realize the MLF offense emphasizes runs more than M3, but K.Shanahan has done pretty well with scrapheap finds like Brieda, Mostert, etc.

[Joemailman]

Packers will have some extra draft picks in 2021. I certainly could see them using a middle round pick on a RB who is a better fit in outside zone than Jones. Not paying Jones, and releasing Turner could free up enough money to keep both Linsley and Bakhtiari.

[smuggler]

You can't sign anyone while you're over the cap. No FA of any kind. No rookies of any kind. If you don't get under the salary cap, the league usually fines you a draft pick. But this will be a special circumstance. Who knows?

[Joemailman]

You can't sign anyone while you're over the cap. No FA of any kind. No rookies of any kind. If you don't get under the salary cap, the league usually fines you a draft pick. But this will be a special circumstance. Who knows?

That won't change. That's why the owners and NFLPA agreed to spread the loss of revenues over 3 years. Otherwise you could have had the salary cap go down about 60 million. That would have been chaotic.

I have no idea what the Saints ae going to do. They currently have 12 players who will have a cap hit over 10 million next year. Brees and Taysom Hill will have a combined cap hit of 52 million.

[run pMc]

Packers will have some extra draft picks in 2021. I certainly could see them using a middle round pick on a RB who is a better fit in outside zone than Jones. Not paying Jones, and releasing Turner could free up enough money to keep both Linsley and Bakhtiari.

I don't like it, but I think releasing Preston Smith would be an option as well. I think they like Turner at RT. Go figure.

[run pMc]

That won't change. That's why the owners and NFLPA agreed to spread the loss of revenues over 3 years. Otherwise you could have had the salary cap go down about 60 million. That would have been chaotic.

I have no idea what the Saints ae going to do. They currently have 12 players who will have a cap hit over 10 million next year. Brees and Taysom Hill will have a combined cap hit of 52 million.

Maybe they can dump Brees and Hill and trade for Love. Then when he plays light out we can lament how dumb Gute was for letting him go.
Seriously, that's a lot of money -- they are going to have some crazy decisions to make. I imagine they will renogiate anything they can, but they're going to have to play a lot of rookies and cheap vets. Maybe they figure after a year or two of that they will be drafting early enough to snag their next QB.

[gbgary]

So what the fuck is gonna happen? Those guys with expiring contracts are just gonna be out on the street? Or signing for a million or so a season? Come on. We all know that isn't gonna happen. Somebody will sign them - maybe for slightly less than what is now thought to be the market price, so why not the Packers? Everybody is basically in the same boat.

Restructure Rodgers to a million or so with the understanding that when he's finally done, we keep him on for one more overpaid year. Use the $35 million or so saved to retain Aaron Jones, Linsley, and that sacred cow, Bakhtiari. I think Rodgers would go for that - heaven knows he's already rich enough.

everyone is not in the same boat as the Packers. 10 or so teams are worse. 20 or so better off. some slightly, some very much so. i wouldn't push anymore of rodgers money back. doing so would kill the cap savings they'd get by letting him go, if not after this season, at the end of 2021. they need those savings for anyone they really want to keep by structuring their deals like clarks (where the large cap bites start in 2022). love will be cheap for 5 years. they need that relief. their plan on who to keep falls on their plan with rodgers going forward. it's one or the other.