John Ross Request Trade From Bengals

[GB-Brandon]

He has the skill set we’re lacking and need. He has had some injury issues and not living up to when he was drafted but he has been stuck In Cincinnati so that could be part of it. He is Super Talented. I watched him a lot when he played for Washington and he can flat out fly and shift gears.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/john-ross-reportedly-requests-trade-seven-logical-landing-spots-for-bengals-wide-receiver/

[GB-Brandon]

He can beat press coverage!!!

Sign me Up!!!!!!!!

[texaspackerbacker]

I'd be ok with this if he was cheap - 5th or 6th pick, absolutely no higher than 4th. I've always said, we don't need another WR, but undoubtedly he would be a step up from Shepherd, maybe even St. Brown. I hated the Funchess acquisition. If we're gonna get anybody, this is the kind of guy we should get.

I doubt it happens, though, for the same reason we didn't draft a speed WR - whatever the fuck that reason was hahahahaha.

[Sparkey]

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/platform/amp/by-the-numbers/2020/10/20/21522286/packers-trade-targets-john-ross-wide-receiver-bengals-no-thanks

Please NO.

[run pMc]

That they wanted to move a top 10 pick to CB says it all. Nope.
Saw that Acme article yesterday and it's pretty convincing.

[KYPack]

We already have John Ross. MVS is an almost exact replica of Ross. Except MVS is much more available to perform on the field. Ross is really known for one thing... he smoked a 40 at his combine. There is now way he can ever come close to his flashy combine 40 again. He rarely made the field in his Bengal career, we'd get the same kind of production.

Ross will be available in the off-season for no compensation, why trade a pick (even a 7) for him?

[GB-Brandon]

Because we are lining up Darius Shepherd and EQ and have questions at TE. It would be an improvement. He has plenty of tape where he beats press man coverage which is where we struggle. Aaron Rodgers and this offense is obviously a much better situation then AndyDalton/Joe Burrow and the Bengals for him!!

[GB-Brandon]

MVS is not John Ross. That article is FRAUD!!!

[GB-Brandon]

MVS is 6’4 200ilbs

John Ross 5’11 195lbs

Not only are these players not even close in stature but Ross is a far superior athlete then MVS. Ross would be the fastest player on the team and is much more explosive then MVS as well. Ross has Elite short area quickness and burst. Now I’m not going to discount some of the problems Ross has had with the Bengals but once again we’re talking about the Bengals. I believe LaFluer could use him as a much more dangerous option then Ervin and also get something out of him in the passing game in the slot. We’re talking about “Chunk Plays” here. He has tape of beating “Press Man Coverage” and that is where we got exposed as we currently only have one man on the roster right now that can do that. It’s a big problem moving forward. We could also probably get Ross for cheap so it wouldn’t include “Mortgaging The Franchise” which seem to be like fight words with some Packer fans for whatever reason.

I think based on WHAT WE HAVE SHOWN WE NEED it’s a good gamble to get some help and bolster the offense with another weapon for LaFluer to scheme and help the offense against better defenses so it doesn’t get so bogged down. It’s clear that Darius Shepherd and EQ probably aren’t going to get us to promise land unless we get really lucky.

[KYPack]

MVS is 6’4 200ilbs

John Ross 5’11 195lbs

Not only are these players not even close in stature but Ross is a far superior athlete then MVS. Ross would be the fastest player on the team and is much more explosive then MVS as well. Ross has Elite short area quickness and burst. Now I’m not going to discount some of the problems Ross has had with the Bengals but once again we’re talking about the Bengals. I believe LaFluer could use him as a much more dangerous option then Ervin and also get something out of him in the passing game in the slot. We’re talking about “Chunk Plays” here. He has tape of beating “Press Man Coverage” and that is where we got exposed as we currently only have one man on the roster right now that can do that. It’s a big problem moving forward. We could also probably get Ross for cheap so it wouldn’t include “Mortgaging The Franchise” which seem to be like fight words with some Packer fans for whatever reason.

I think based on WHAT WE HAVE SHOWN WE NEED it’s a good gamble to get some help and bolster the offense with another weapon for LaFluer to scheme and help the offense against better defenses so it doesn’t get so bogged down. It’s clear that Darius Shepherd and EQ probably aren’t going to get us to promise land unless we get really lucky.

If Ross were cut, I'd think about giving him a try out. Or if we had an extra 7 I'd interview the hell out of him and maybe give him a flyer. You are right, he's a small guy who plays tiny. He can beat press cover? Sometimes. Not when you need it.

He has all of the flaws of MVS, but few of the attributes. He has a bad attitude, not surly but lackadaisical. He never learned the playbook, constantly making errors that lead to benching. His hands are mediocre, good CB's can gobble him up if he doesn't whip him with that shake move of his.

I live in Cincy and had season tickets thru 19. Ross falls in line with a whole host of failed Bengal #1's

There is only one facet of Ross's game that does intrigue me. He is one of the best WR's I've ever seen at running an end line route. He can run along the back line of the end zone like a top water bug. The first time I saw him do it, I was amazed. Why he doesn't apply that kind of shake to the rest of his route running, I couldn't tell ya.

Except for that, what we have is as good or superior to John Ross.

[Joemailman]

If Ross were cut, I'd think about giving him a try out. Or if we had an extra 7 I'd interview the hell out of him and maybe give him a flyer. You are right, he's a small guy who plays tiny. He can beat press cover? Sometimes. Not when you need it.

He has all of the flaws of MVS, but few of the attributes. He has a bad attitude, not surly but lackadaisical. He never learned the playbook, constantly making errors that lead to benching. His hands are mediocre, good CB's can gobble him up if he doesn't whip him with that shake move of his.

I live in Cincy and had season tickets thru 19. Ross falls in line with a whole host of failed Bengal #1's

There is only one facet of Ross's game that does intrigue me. He is one of the best WR's I've ever seen at running an end line route. He can run along the back line of the end zone like a top water bug. The first time I saw him do it, I was amazed. Why he doesn't apply that kind of shake to the rest of his route running, I couldn't tell ya.

Except for that, what we have is as good or superior to John Ross.

That would seem to make him a real bad match with Aaron Rodgers.

[GB-Brandon]

If Ross were cut, I'd think about giving him a try out. Or if we had an extra 7 I'd interview the hell out of him and maybe give him a flyer. You are right, he's a small guy who plays tiny. He can beat press cover? Sometimes. Not when you need it.

He has all of the flaws of MVS, but few of the attributes. He has a bad attitude, not surly but lackadaisical. He never learned the playbook, constantly making errors that lead to benching. His hands are mediocre, good CB's can gobble him up if he doesn't whip him with that shake move of his.

I live in Cincy and had season tickets thru 19. Ross falls in line with a whole host of failed Bengal #1's

There is only one facet of Ross's game that does intrigue me. He is one of the best WR's I've ever seen at running an end line route. He can run along the back line of the end zone like a top water bug. The first time I saw him do it, I was amazed. Why he doesn't apply that kind of shake to the rest of his route running, I couldn't tell ya.

Except for that, what we have is as good or superior to John Ross.

Yeah, I have to admit there are some red flags with Ross. He isn’t the perfect solution by any means. I just think he might be able to be better at doing some of the things they ask Ervin to do and would also be a better option then having to play Shepherd as well. That’s kinda where I’m at with it.

[SudsMcBucky]

I am all for getting AR another target via trade or FA acquisition, but John Ross is not someone I would include in that wish list.

[GB-Brandon]

Ross was very effective in college at Washington being schemed into space. Getting him into open field and letting his natural ability take over. The Bengals run a very different type of pro style offense that hasn’t worked well for Ross or the Bengals. In the LaFluer system I think it could give some life to Ross’s career. I don’t like the MVS comparison at all. Maybe as deep ball weapons they are comparable but Ross possesses elite short area quickness and speed, something MVS just does not have. In the LaFluer system this is a much needed attribute and can be used in a variety of ways to get Ross in those situations where he is in open space with his elite speed and short area separation and quickness. You could create a much simpler and effective playbook for Ross in the LaFluer scheme maximizing Ross’s skillset no doubt! This is the thing I like about the LaFluer scheme so why we don’t have more players like Ross is a head scratcher to me.

Bill Belichick is a master at taking very talented players that were not successful in someone else’s system and making them All-Stars in his system and scheme. The Packers don’t need to be as good as Bill Belichick here but they need to do something.

[KYPack]

Ross was very effective in college at Washington being schemed into space. Getting him into open field and letting his natural ability take over. The Bengals run a very different type of pro style offense that hasn’t worked well for Ross or the Bengals. In the LaFluer system I think it could give some life to Ross’s career. I don’t like the MVS comparison at all. Maybe as deep ball weapons they are comparable but Ross possesses elite short area quickness and speed, something MVS just does not have. In the LaFluer system this is a much needed attribute and can be used in a variety of ways to get Ross in those situations where he is in open space with his elite speed and short area separation and quickness. You could create a much simpler and effective playbook for Ross in the LaFluer scheme maximizing Ross’s skillset no doubt! This is the thing I like about the LaFluer scheme so why we don’t have more players like Ross is a head scratcher to me.

Bill Belichick is a master at taking very talented players that were not successful in someone else’s system and making them All-Stars in his system and scheme. The Packers don’t need to be as good as Bill Belichick here but they need to do something.

Actually, Ross is playing (or NOT playing) under a very similar system for the past two years. Bengal HC Zac Taylor is out of the Sean McVay tree. Ross has been a healthy inactive for most of the games. The Bengals WR core is actually superior to the GBP. An aging AJ Green, young star Tyler Boyd, and uber rookie Tee Higgins. Ross's agent correctly realizes Ross has no hope of cracking that line-up.

Could he help[ us? Maybe and a very weak maybe at that.

Ross has any number of physical issues to boot. He has problems with his knees and both shoulders. My magic 8 ball says NFW, but maybe yours reads differently.