John Ross Request Trade From Bengals

[run pMc]

I'm solidly with KY on this one. If he were any good, he'd be seeing more playing time. Tee Higgins passed him on the depth chart as a rookie, that's not a good sign for a vet.

If he were drafted at #9 by GB, we'd be calling him a bust and blaming Gute, TT, M3, MLF, and Murphy.

Ross is a great athlete, but not a great player. You can get away with that in college FB, but not in the pros.

[GB-Brandon]

Actually, Ross is playing (or NOT playing) under a very similar system for the past two years. Bengal HC Zac Taylor is out of the Sean McVay tree. Ross has been a healthy inactive for most of the games. The Bengals WR core is actually superior to the GBP. An aging AJ Green, young star Tyler Boyd, and uber rookie Tee Higgins. Ross's agent correctly realizes Ross has no hope of cracking that line-up.

Could he help[ us? Maybe and a very weak maybe at that.

Ross has any number of physical issues to boot. He has problems with his knees and both shoulders. My magic 8 ball says NFW, but maybe yours reads differently.

Yeah, Bengals have weapons no doubt. I tend to agree with you about Ross. He is not my first choice but when I look at Ervin and Shepherd all the sudden Ross doesn’t look so bad is where I’m at with it.

[GB-Brandon]

I'm solidly with KY on this one. If he were any good, he'd be seeing more playing time. Tee Higgins passed him on the depth chart as a rookie, that's not a good sign for a vet.

If he were drafted at #9 by GB, we'd be calling him a bust and blaming Gute, TT, M3, MLF, and Murphy.

Ross is a great athlete, but not a great player. You can get away with that in college FB, but not in the pros.

You are right. He was a huge reach and I thought so when he was drafted. Once again I’m putting this whole thing in the perspective of Darius Shepherd and Tyler Ervin and what if MVS were to suffer an injury. We have a lot of ball game left.

Ross is not my first choice but he would be easy to probably get and his contract expires at end of season.

[bobblehead]

He has the skill set we’re lacking and need. He has had some injury issues and not living up to when he was drafted but he has been stuck In Cincinnati so that could be part of it. He is Super Talented. I watched him a lot when he played for Washington and he can flat out fly and shift gears.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/j...wide-receiver/

You baffle the shit out of me. You complain about guys like MVS and Lazard. I'll clear this one up for you. Ross has is in his 4th season. Has 733 career yards. Lazard has has 738 already. MVS has 1275. MVS has a season of 581. Lazard had 477 in his finish last year. Ross has managed a year of 506 and 210.

Getting boring dropping receipts on your dumb ass.

[GB-Brandon]

You baffle the shit out of me. You complain about guys like MVS and Lazard. I'll clear this one up for you. Ross has is in his 4th season. Has 733 career yards. Lazard has has 738 already. MVS has 1275. MVS has a season of 581. Lazard had 477 in his finish last year. Ross has managed a year of 506 and 210.

Getting boring dropping receipts on your dumb ass.

MVS is a bum and Lazard is hurt.

[Upnorth]

Ross is a substantial down grade from mvs from play and production on the field.

[texaspackerbacker]

No, MVS is not a "bum" and Lazard won't be hurt for long, and he was damn good when healthy.

I'll backtrack on saying I wouldn't mind getting Ross for a 5th, no more than a 4th. Make that a 7th, no more than a 6th. If we brought him in, it wouldn't be to take snaps from Lazard or MVS, probably not even St. Brown or Taylor. It would be Ross versus Derrick Shepherd - who I don't dislike nearly as much as a lot of ya'all, but who sure doesn't run a 4.22 40.

[GB-Brandon]

Ross is a substantial down grade from mvs from play and production on the field.

I think there pretty similar from a career production stand point. MVS has an edge but neither is lighting the world on fire. Ross is getting lost in the shuffle with a very talented receiving room and is upset and wants to be traded. MVS is being forced to play because Gute hasn’t done anything in three years to really fortify the receiving room. MVS wouldn’t be seeing the field in Cincinnati either. MVS is also only converting 50 percent of the balls thrown his way. Considering Aaron Rodgers is your QB that’s a pretty bad number.

He has had the luxury of three years in this system and basically given the role he is in. We are not where we need to be at this stage in the development with all the opportunities. If I had to choose with this system I’d take Ross. I think Ross gives your more options. That’s my opinion. You can have yours.

Once again Ross is not my first choice to address this by the trade dead line but he is an option. Regardless if you think he is better or worse then MVS he could prove to be valuable down the stretch with continued attrition.

[GB-Brandon]

No, MVS is not a "bum" and Lazard won't be hurt for long, and he was damn good when healthy.

I'll backtrack on saying I wouldn't mind getting Ross for a 5th, no more than a 4th. Make that a 7th, no more than a 6th. If we brought him in, it wouldn't be to take snaps from Lazard or MVS, probably not even St. Brown or Taylor. It would be Ross versus Derrick Shepherd - who I don't dislike nearly as much as a lot of ya'all, but who sure doesn't run a 4.22 40.

They have no clear timetable for Lazard’s return. It could be November. It could be December. It could be next year. It’s been explained it’s a very delicate recovery process and depends on a lot of things but the fact that he plays receiver could make it harder to come back with it early. I’m not sure it would be wise to put all one’s eggs in that basket.

[texaspackerbacker]

I basically agree with that, although I'm a little more optimistic than you about when he will return. That still would only move Ross up one notch, though, in terms of who he would be replacing. We're fine without him, although if he was cheap enough, it's worth considering to get him.

[bobblehead]

MVS is a bum and Lazard is hurt.

Maybe, but he whipped Joe Louis (John Ross) ass.

[bobblehead]

Alshon Jeffrey is being shopped. You want a busted up WR, take a shot on an alpha 6'4" guy who has produced whenever he is on the field. Perfect one season rental. Not sure on his contract situation going forward, but I would think you can always cut him after the year. He has warts as well, but philly has grown weary and I bet you get him for a 5th. He would immediately be a #2 on this team.

[GB-Brandon]

I basically agree with that, although I'm a little more optimistic than you about when he will return. That still would only move Ross up one notch, though, in terms of who he would be replacing. We're fine without him, although if he was cheap enough, it's worth considering to get him.

I’m not being “Negative” about Lazard’s return. It’s a tricky injury and the Packers probably aren’t even 100 percent sure when he will be back. As it sits he is on injured reserve. It’s a wait and see.

[GB-Brandon]

Alshon Jeffrey is being shopped. You want a busted up WR, take a shot on an alpha 6'4" guy who has produced whenever he is on the field. Perfect one season rental. Not sure on his contract situation going forward, but I would think you can always cut him after the year. He has warts as well, but philly has grown weary and I bet you get him for a 5th. He would immediately be a #2 on this team.

Im open for any move that improves our position on offense against the better defenses in the league and gives us a better chance.

[texaspackerbacker]

Getting Alshon Jeffrey would be like getting Funchess - more of what we already have, and I seriously doubt he would be the team's #2 or anywhere near it. Ross, at least, would be something new - a real speed burner, and no, MVS is a different kind of player. The best comparison of Ross - if Ross can catch the ball anyway - is Will Fuller of Houston.