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[GB-Brandon]

There you go. That is the “Vision.” Why would Gute not want to make that vision a reality. I would be so on board!!!

That gives me “The Vision Of Super Bowl Parade” in front of my house!!!

[GB-Brandon]

Go Make “The Vision A Reality” Gute!!!!

[texaspackerbacker]

Brandon, about the only one stirred up about the Packer receiver situation is you. 13-3 and 5-1 says we are in pretty good shape there and elsewhere. The fact that a lot of the production comes from players picked up at K-Mart prices, using your metaphor, makes that all the more impressive.

As for MVS, he hasn't really been a liability. He just hasn't been the high grade asset many expected based on his size, speed, etc. He has been damn good, though, for a 5th round "K-Mart" pick. IMO, he will get better.

[RashanGary]

There you go. That is the “Vision.” Why would Gute not want to make that vision a reality. I would be so on board!!!

It’s a idea. It has a chance of working. Cooks is probably best bet. He’s a vet who could click sooner with 12. Plus, he’s available

[RashanGary]

Cooks has played with Brees, Brady, Goff and Watson. He probably understands what QBs want fairly well. It’s not the worst idea. With Lazard back, we’d be pretty good. But I think we might be pretty good without cooks, once Lazard comes back and we’re pretty good now. So it’s a risk/reward equation.

[RashanGary]

Sure makes ya wonder why nobody wants him tho.... risky

[beveaux1]

I'll be somewhat surprised if we trade for a vet receiver, especially this year with the high-end players we have on the last year of their contracts, the cap space we have presently, and the almost certain drop in next year's cap.

[GB-Brandon]

Cooks has played with Brees, Brady, Goff and Watson. He probably understands what QBs want fairly well. It’s not the worst idea. With Lazard back, we’d be pretty good. But I think we might be pretty good without cooks, once Lazard comes back and we’re pretty good now. So it’s a risk/reward equation.

Yep, Cooks is the one I’ve been posting about. Ran this offense with Rams. Has an out in his contract after this season. Perfect Fit!

[RashanGary]

Yep, Cooks is the one I’ve been posting about. Ran this offense with Rams. Has an out in his contract after this season. Perfect Fit!

Yeah, you’re making sense. On paper, it sounds great. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn’t. Nobody really wanting to invest in him as a core player says a lot. We have a locker room of really good guys and a staff that talks about family and commitment. There are things that affect the team that don’t show up on a lineup sheet, like trust, motivation, moral, etc..... If the Packers bring in Cook this year and pay him a bunch of millions of dollars and then let Jones go next year, it’s a bad look. It sure doesn’t match up with the family atmosphere they’re trying to pretend they have so guys buy in or do have. You have to consider everything and everyone because we need these guys to want to be here. People perform better when they feel cared about, respected and committed to.

If we lose Bakh or King or Jones next year, guys everyone loves and who play well, while they’re paying millions to guys from other teams, it’s a really bad look and honestly, bad karma overall.

I would definitely consider the locker room when I make any and every decision. It sounds good to say, “you make millions, shut up and play.” It feels good coming off the tongue, but in real life, where people actually feel betrayed or let down by other people, it’s asking for trouble to back stab your guys financially for your own glory.

I think guys understand it’s a business, but they still play better when they feel like the guys they’re working for and with do everything they can to make sure they take care of each other when it’s possible.

Needless to say, I’m big on the win with your guys mentality and the stick together mentality. Even if the brutal cold actions of NE paid off, I’d rather be a fan of a team that wins one every 10 years with some fucking morals that I can feel good about

[GB-Brandon]

Brandon, about the only one stirred up about the Packer receiver situation is you. 13-3 and 5-1 says we are in pretty good shape there and elsewhere. The fact that a lot of the production comes from players picked up at K-Mart prices, using your metaphor, makes that all the more impressive.

As for MVS, he hasn't really been a liability. He just hasn't been the high grade asset many expected based on his size, speed, etc. He has been damn good, though, for a 5th round "K-Mart" pick. IMO, he will get better.

I don’t care about “Winning Seasons” Tex. I care about “Winning a Super Bowl”

Get with the program!!

Second place trophy’s don’t mean shit to me.

[GB-Brandon]

Yeah, you’re making sense. On paper, it sounds great. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn’t. Nobody really wanting to invest in him as a core player says a lot. We have a locker room of really good guys and a staff that talks about family and commitment. There are things that affect the team that don’t show up on a lineup sheet, like trust, motivation, moral, etc..... If the Packers bring in Cook this year and pay him a bunch of millions of dollars and then let Jones go next year, it’s a bad look. It sure doesn’t match up with the family atmosphere they’re trying to pretend they have so guys buy in or do have. You have to consider everything and everyone because we need these guys to want to be here. People perform better when they feel cared about, respected and committed to.

If we lose Bakh or King or Jones next year, guys everyone loves and who play well, while they’re paying millions to guys from other teams, it’s a really bad look and honestly, bad karma overall.

I would definitely consider the locker room when I make any and every decision. It sounds good to say, “you make millions, shut up and play.” It feels good coming off the tongue, but in real life, where people actually feel betrayed or let down by other people, it’s asking for trouble to back stab your guys financially for your own glory.

I think guys understand it’s a business, but they still play better when they feel like the guys they’re working for and with do everything they can to make sure they take care of each other when it’s possible.

Needless to say, I’m big on the win with your guys mentality and the stick together mentality. Even if the brutal cold actions of NE paid off, I’d rather be a fan of a team that wins one every 10 years with some fucking morals that I can feel good about

They Know deep down inside what they are missing. Everyone was shocked they didn’t draft a receiver including Adams. They tried to give these guys opportunities and run with it and were a little short. They should be the first one’s saying yeah go get us help to make us ELITE! Why would they not want to be part of something that has to the potential to be ELITE and get a Super Bowl Ring instead of being “Pretty Good.” Choose to go down in history as Being Great or protect your Fucken Fragile Feelings? Spare me!!!

[GB-Brandon]

I’m sorry but this isn’t high school football and “Friday Night Lights.” It’s the NFL and the fans pay through the teeth to watch their team put the best team out there to win Championships. Its $400 dollars just for a good seat at Lambeau. I want to see “Greatness” on the field. We deserve this as fans. If “Feel Good Stories” happen through the natural development of the team then great but this is about “Winning” and doing what puts you in the best interest of “Winning.”

[GB-Brandon]

So we should all be held hostage of winning a Fucken Super Bowl for the “Feel Good Story” of a few guys that got a chance and couldn’t get the job done?

Fuck That!!!

[RashanGary]

I’m sorry but this isn’t high school football and “Friday Night Lights.” It’s the NFL and the fans pay through the teeth to watch their team put the best team out there to win Championships. Its $400 dollars just for a good seat at Lambeau. I want to see “Greatness” on the field. We deserve this as fans. If “Feel Good Stories” happen through the natural development of the team then great but this is about “Winning” and doing what puts you in the best interest of “Winning.”

I have some good, cold hearted attitudes toward life, but when I have to go to work and look a mf in the eye while I screw him over, my cold hearted intentions suddenly become a little harder to follow through with. From your perspective, not being there to see the hurt in their eyes when they’re let go, it’s easier to make paper champion visions. I don’t know if it’s that easy for Gute. And I don’t know that it’s good for our chances of winning a SB (of which, we’re poised to make a run at for several years.)

Look, I’m smelling what you’re stepping in and understanding your viewpoint, but I have some other thoughts too. We’re not all gonna agree with each other all of the time.

Jones is almost a sure casualty. He’s the best guy ever. That alone means you better, if you want the team to trust you at all, do what you can for as many as you can. Business is business, but giving a shit is good business too, if you want guys to play for you and buy in.

[GB-Brandon]

I have some good, cold hearted attitudes toward life, but when I have to go to work and look a mf in the eye while I screw him over, my cold hearted intentions suddenly become a little harder to follow through with. From your perspective, not being there to see the hurt in their eyes when they’re let go, it’s easier to make paper champion visions. I don’t know if it’s that easy for Gute. And I don’t know that it’s good for our chances of winning a SB (of which, we’re poised to make a run at for several years.)

Look, I’m smelling what you’re stepping in and understanding your viewpoint, but I have some other thoughts too. We’re not all gonna agree with each other all of the time.

Jones is almost a sure casualty. He’s the best guy ever. That alone means you better, if you want the team to trust you at all, do what you can for as many as you can. Business is business, but giving a shit is good business too, if you want guys to play for you and buy in.

You have to look at guys in the eye when it’s a 90 man roster and cut it all the way down to 53 when they have worked their ass off all year to make your team. It’s part of the business. It’s why they make the $ they do. Aaron Jones was always gone. The only way Aaron Jones was getting resigned was if Rodgers came out and tanked this year. The fact that Rodgers is playing the way he is made the decision as far as a cap stand point and Jones not getting re-singed. Had noting to do with GM wanting to be mean to Aaron Jones. I’m sure the GM’s would like to keep lots of players but can’t. Just the nature of how it’s all set up. Geez, you sound like a Packer PR guy I knew that used to cry every time they let a guy go that he liked so much. It’s the nature of the business and most of the players understand. It’s never easy but they are wired for this.

Teams trade for players all the time. The Packers making a trade for a receiver that has zero documented history of being a cancer in the locker room to help them fortify a weak position to help them get over the hump being potentially looked at as a negative by the team is just mind blowing to me. If the team is that Fucken Fragile they aren’t gonna win it all anyways.