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[King Friday]

A one trick pony is worth keeping if that one trick is blowing past opposing DBs like they are standing still. Yeah, MVS ain't gonna be claiming any All Pro honors in his career, but he rips the top off a defense. That is always needed. His threat is what will give the better WRs room to operate.

[RashanGary]

A one trick pony is worth keeping if that one trick is blowing past opposing DBs like they are standing still. Yeah, MVS ain't gonna be claiming any All Pro honors in his career, but he rips the top off a defense. That is always needed. His threat is what will give the better WRs room to operate.

I agree. I don’t know if he’s the guy you want on the field on 3rd and 1 from the opponents 9 yard line. Short field, short yardage. Ugh, he doesn’t bring much to the table there. That’s why Lazard coming back is so important. MVS is completely miscast as an every down player right now. He needs to be a go ball specialist who has crossers and jet sweeps as a change up.

[RashanGary]

If you bring Marquez in, in long field situations and have him run decoy go balls until 12 finds him on one, GREAT! That’s what he’s good for. He has a place in this offense. Even if we had the best 4 all around receivers in the game, 83 would still probably be better running straight go routes on a long field, and would still have a place.

[RashanGary]

It’s like if you had Kingsley Keke, Kampman and Kabeer as your top 3 DEs and it’s goal line and your bring KGB in to take a double. Dude is not a goalline run stuffer. He’s a speed edge rusher. MVS is miscast right now because they have no one to take his short yardage and short field snaps. He’s being forced, because of lack of players better than him, into situations he’s not built for.

We’ll all appreciate 83 more when he’s back to his best role and not being square pegged into some really bad roles for him

[GB-Brandon]

Once again it’s a situation where Gute had multiple opportunities in the draft, free agency, trade dead line etc etc to upgrade a very important piece in the offense. One that I’m sure if you asked Aaron or LaFluer privately they would agree they would like improved and Gute couldn’t get it done. Gute prioritized other things and made them more important then giving us a very important pieces that could significantly improve our chances against better teams. At this stage in Rodgers career you have to almost treat every year as there is “No Tomorrow.” He Will be 37 next year and after all this bullshit Gute has done or “Not Done” Rodgers has perfectly positioned himself to say “Get me the fuck out of here” and it would have merit. Nobody would blame Rodgers one bit.

So it’s more of a situation of here we are and we’re stuck MVS and have to hope for best. Most people knew MVS was never gonna be more then what he has shown but Gute had to show us how smart he is. Just like with EQ and not drafting a receiver for 2 years or a really doing anything. The fact is Gute isn’t that smart at all.

“HOPIUM”

[GB-Brandon]

There is going to be plenty of time for losing. Trust me on that!!!

Plenty of time watch guys like MVS with a 4-12 team. We had a chance for greatness!!!

[Bretsky]

To Brandon’s never ending point, we are probably one quality WR (plus Lazard coming back) from being unstoppable.

I embrace this; assuming we keep the Aaron Squared DUO

[GB-Brandon]

The thing is Rodgers wants to stay. He cares about his legacy and has much more character then a lot of people give him credit for. They should put a statue of him in front of Lambeau field as far as I’m concerned when it’s all said and done!!!

Hopefully Gute has gotten it through his thick skull what he needs to do to finish this thing. NO MORE FUCKEN EXCUSES!!!

[bobblehead]

MVS on pace for 823 yards with 7 of them over 40.


Definitely not a #2 WR, but I think my situational one trick pony description is holding water

He needs 2 things. First he needs to work the juggs machine for 500 catches a week. Second he needs to get it out of his head that he can't afford to drop it. He gets open in the midfield game and could yet develop into a rounded player. The fact that Rodgers continues to go at him will help that confidence. If he can stop thinking too much he can be a consistent #2 field stretcher.

[bobblehead]

Agree with this. IF he can create a big play per game, opposing defenses will have to respect him. He's a deep threat, and that's really it. He's gotta be more consistent.

I still question his ability to track the ball in the air and his hands. He double clutched that 78 yarder. Maybe I'm being to critical; at least he caught it.
He completely scorched Jones on that play -- ran by and around him so Jones was actually along the sideline. THAT was impressive.

I still see James Jones in him (different players, same trajectory). Jones got it in his head and dropped a lot of deep balls early. Its in MVS head at this point. Is he going to be Macky Sasser or will he overcome it.

[bobblehead]

HE NEVER SHOWS UP IN BIG GAMES!!!!!! Show me one?

He fits the “Perennial Front Runner Mold” to a tee!!!

Until MVS shows up and makes some big plays in a big game then I don’t want to hear a peep!!!

It’s FRAUD!!!!!!!

speaking of not wanting to hear a peep....Let me offer this for everyone here.

[bobblehead]

The thing is Rodgers wants to stay. He cares about his legacy and has much more character then a lot of people give him credit for. They should put a statue of him in front of Lambeau field as far as I’m concerned when it’s all said and done!!!

Hopefully Gute has gotten it through his thick skull what he needs to do to finish this thing. NO MORE FUCKEN EXCUSES!!!

His own family disagrees. I have no clue to be honest, but neither do you. He has done some very high character things in his life and he has done a few low rent things. Overall, I'll take him. He ain't Antonio Brown, but he isn't Bart Starr either.

[run pMc]

Until MVS shows up and makes some big plays in a big game then I don’t want to hear a peep!!!

LOL MVS was a major contributor to winning this game. The 78 yard TD, and a couple of 1st downs converted to keep drives going. His 149 yards receiving was almost 50% of Rodgers total passing yardage. If you want to say it wasn't a big game, I might give you that... but it would have been a big game had they lost it. As it is they are 2 games up on the rest of the NFCN. 7-2 is better than 6-3.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I still see James Jones in him (different players, same trajectory). Jones got it in his head and dropped a lot of deep balls early. Its in MVS head at this point. Is he going to be Macky Sasser or will he overcome it.

I don't see it. Jones had one year where he struggled. It was mostly concentration drops, but you could tell his hands, ball skills, and hand-eye coordination weren't the problem. MVS will always drop balls and be poor in 50-50 situations. You just hope he gets good enough where he catches open opportunities. He'd have value with his speed if he just did that.

[HarveyWallbangers]

His own family disagrees. I have no clue to be honest, but neither do you. He has done some very high character things in his life and he has done a few low rent things. Overall, I'll take him. He ain't Antonio Brown, but he isn't Bart Starr either.

Funny. I was just thinking about the character of the Packers legendary QBs this morning. My daughter left out an old magazine I had with Starr, Favre, and Rodgers on the cover. Starr was a class act. Probably as nice and humble as they come. Favre was a ton of fun, gave it his all, but probably was a bit bigger turd as a person than you'd think. Rodgers seems like a petulant child on the field and is definitely arrogant, but probably isn't as big of an asshole as it would seem.