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[Upnorth]

Without mvs in the last game we are 6-3. Adams was not Adams and I don't know why.

P Smith was just a guy it seemed like. Sure he got a sack but was kinda meh

[Joemailman]

Packers have never really had the group of WR's they thought they'd have this season. Coming out of the draft I figured their top 5 WR's were:

1. Adams
2. Lazard
3. Funchess
4. St. Brown
5. MVS

1. Adams has missed 2+ games
2.. Lazard had missed 6 games
3. Funchess never played
4. St. Brown missed 4 games
5. MVS has played every game.

[Harlan Huckleby]

A one trick pony is worth keeping if that one trick is blowing past opposing DBs like they are standing still. Yeah, MVS ain't gonna be claiming any All Pro honors in his career, but he rips the top off a defense. That is always needed. His threat is what will give the better WRs room to operate.

The Packers often have carried a WR who simply is a deep threat. I can think of at least 5 players that I can't remember.

edit Corey Bradford was one long ball guy.
Janis

They make plays, worth a roster spot especially if they can do something on special teams

[RashanGary]

MVS gets open deep and doesn't drop the deep ones. It's all the other ones he struggles with and the shorter the pass or more contested, the worse it gets.

As a deep threat though, he's legit. He's leading the league right now and was top 10 in his rookie and injured sophomore seasons. Playing less is good for him, but not playing him in long field situations is absolutely bad for the Packers. He can run that deep stuff and teams have to respect it. You get two solid guys in front of him and bring him in on the long field and he opens everything up underneath as well as gets his fair share of bombs coming his way.

[run pMc]

The Packers often have carried a WR who simply is a deep threat. I can think of at least 5 players that I can't remember.

edit Corey Bradford was one long ball guy.
Janis

They make plays, worth a roster spot especially if they can do something on special teams

If you go back to the Holmgren days:
Jeff Query
Not sure Bill Schroeder fits
Don Beebe
Corey Bradford
Janis
Trevor Davis
MVS is not unusual for GB or any team really -- as King Friday said, a big play deep ball per game from one of these guys is often all you need to give your other guys room to operate and at least present a threat the defense has to account for.

[Joemailman]

MVS gets open deep and doesn't drop the deep ones. It's all the other ones he struggles with and the shorter the pass or more contested, the worse it gets.

As a deep threat though, he's legit. He's leading the league right now and was top 10 in his rookie and injured sophomore seasons. Playing less is good for him, but not playing him in long field situations is absolutely bad for the Packers. He can run that deep stuff and teams have to respect it. You get two solid guys in front of him and bring him in on the long field and he opens everything up underneath as well as gets his fair share of bombs ek. coming his way.

I remember Alvin Harper with the Cowboys. He was a great deep threat when the Cowboys had Michael Irvin and Jay Novacek. Tampa Bay then signed him to a big free agent contract. But when he had to be The Guy, he couldn't do it. We should be hoping that MVS can be what Alvin Harper was for the Cowboys, and not expect more.

[RashanGary]

I remember Alvin Harper with the Cowboys. He was a great deep threat when the Cowboys had Michael Irvin and Jay Novacek. Tampa Bay then signed him to a big free agent contract. But when he had to be The Guy, he couldn't do it. We should be hoping that MVS can be what Alvin Harper was for the Cowboys, and not expect more.

Yep. The sooner we let go of him being an every down player, the more we can enjoy his situational presence. Now here’s hoping Adams, Lazard and Tonyan stay healthy so we don’t have to keep bitching about a specialist playing every down.

[texaspackerbacker]

You make a great case for not getting rid of Davante Adams or probably Lazard too, Joe hahahahaha.

[Harlan Huckleby]

If you go back to the Holmgren days:
Jeff Query
Not sure Bill Schroeder fits
Don Beebe
Corey Bradford
Janis
Trevor Davis
MVS is not unusual for GB or any team really -- as King Friday said, a big play deep ball per game from one of these guys is often all you need to give your other guys room to operate and at least present a threat the defense has to account for.

I also remember wee Philip Epps, although that was a while back. He was productive despite not being much of a route runner. He could run fast and catch a ball.

[run pMc]

I also remember wee Philip Epps, although that was a while back. He was productive despite not being much of a route runner. He could run fast and catch a ball.

Yeah Epps and Walter Stanley. Those guys were burners back in the 80's.
I wasn't sure about adding Mark Clayton or Mark Ingram; they were on their last legs as receivers when they came to GB.

[run pMc]

Talking about some of these old speed WRs and looking at our current WR corps reminds me of back when they had Sterling Sharpe and a bunch of nobodies. (Sanjay Beach, Perry Kemp, etc.) They basically have that again with Adams and the UDFA crew... they really do need to bring in more WR talent for the offense.

[GB-Brandon]

His own family disagrees. I have no clue to be honest, but neither do you. He has done some very high character things in his life and he has done a few low rent things. Overall, I'll take him. He ain't Antonio Brown, but he isn't Bart Starr either.

Quite frankly you don’t know what the fuck I know. You’d might be shocked though!!!

[Zool]

MVS gets open deep and doesn't drop the deep ones. It's all the other ones he struggles with and the shorter the pass or more contested, the worse it gets.

As a deep threat though, he's legit. He's leading the league right now and was top 10 in his rookie and injured sophomore seasons. Playing less is good for him, but not playing him in long field situations is absolutely bad for the Packers. He can run that deep stuff and teams have to respect it. You get two solid guys in front of him and bring him in on the long field and he opens everything up underneath as well as gets his fair share of bombs coming his way.

Like Harvey said, it’s his ball skills that will always limit him. If the ball falls into his lap, he will probably catch it. If he’s running sideways, or there’s a player within 3 yards, it’s about 50/50.

[RashanGary]

Like Harvey said, it’s his ball skills that will always limit him. If the ball falls into his lap, he will probably catch it. If he’s running sideways, or there’s a player within 3 yards, it’s about 50/50.

He catches the deep ones though. That's indisputable.

[HarveyWallbangers]

He catches the deep ones though. That's indisputable.

Not really. If he's wide open, he mostly catches it. Any type of contested catch, not so much.