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  • #16
    The Packers aren't in a great spot for doing that type of thing. They have a QB playing at the highest level, a defense getting better and an overall team near the top of the list of contenders. New England is starting over at QB. They're good, but they have a butt ton of cap space and can clear out even more if they move Gilmore. All contracts are going to come at a 10% off bargain next year or maybe a little better than that because so few team's were in good position for this. So many team's have what are now considered bad contracts and can't move out of them. And so many good players will be on the market from the cap unhealthy teams.

    New England lucked into the perfect post brady situation. They can load up on quality players and fit more talent under the cap than everyone else because they'll be signing discounted contracts where everyone else is locked into bad contracts.

    New England isn't the only team set up for success going forward, but the best team.


    Our situation is completely different. A bunch of longer term deals at the projected cap number before covid. New England doing it doesn't mean I think we should. It means they should, for their situation.

    We should try to win the SB this year. We're in it. And we don't have the ability to be in that sweepstakes the way they do.
    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
      The reason is the loss of revenue this year is going to be far greater than 20 million. So rather than have the salary cap go down 60-70 million in one year, they're spreading the lost revenue over 3 years.
      I know that's the excuse, but I can't see it happening anyway. Those rich bastards that own the teams (other than the Packers) can certainly afford it. And the Packers, I'm sure, won't be hurting either. I wouldn't even rule out the government throwing in a chunk of money to keep the cap up.

      They aren't gonna let this stupid corona crap upset the competitive balance or the entertainment value.
      What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
        The Packers aren't in a great spot for doing that type of thing. They have a QB playing at the highest level, a defense getting better and an overall team near the top of the list of contenders. New England is starting over at QB. They're good, but they have a butt ton of cap space and can clear out even more if they move Gilmore. All contracts are going to come at a 10% off bargain next year or maybe a little better than that because so few team's were in good position for this. So many team's have what are now considered bad contracts and can't move out of them. And so many good players will be on the market from the cap unhealthy teams.

        New England lucked into the perfect post brady situation. They can load up on quality players and fit more talent under the cap than everyone else because they'll be signing discounted contracts where everyone else is locked into bad contracts.

        New England isn't the only team set up for success going forward, but the best team.


        Our situation is completely different. A bunch of longer term deals at the projected cap number before covid. New England doing it doesn't mean I think we should. It means they should, for their situation.

        We should try to win the SB this year. We're in it. And we don't have the ability to be in that sweepstakes the way they do.
        You can always dump contracts and eat some dead $ creating cap space and choose not to re-sign players you deem not worth market value and in be in play for others. Not saying Packers can be big spenders but they have some movement if they want too.

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        • #19
          They could probably trade P.Smith and Amos and and get a draft pick and not even have to eat any dead $ getting the contract off the books.

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          • #20
            Belichick WOULD LOVE to be in the Packers situation where the QB situation is handled and all he had to do was shuffle the rest of the roster accordingly!!!

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            • #21
              Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
              They could probably trade P.Smith and Amos and and get a draft pick and not even have to eat any dead $ getting the contract off the books.
              You do eat dead money on a trade. Ideally, Turner, Amos and P are guys you'd rather keep for one more because the dead money is really high this year upon trade, high enough to make it tough next year and then very doable the year after. Just not ideal for the up coming frenzy. Plus, we get worst losing any of them right now in what looks like a SB potential year.
              Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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              • #22
                The 4th year of all of their deals looks doubtful in the corona affected cap years. The third year looks less likely than before but not ideal cut time.

                I expect the Packers to make few cuts next year
                I expect them to sign any of the guys they feel like keeping with some cap creativity
                I expect Amos and Preston to be cut after 2021
                I expect Adams and Jaire to be the big contract replacements with a potential free agent or even a new deal for Amos under the current cap.
                Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                  You do eat dead money on a trade. Ideally, Turner, Amos and P are guys you'd rather keep for one more because the dead money is really high this year upon trade, high enough to make it tough next year and then very doable the year after. Just not ideal for the up coming frenzy. Plus, we get worst losing any of them right now in what looks like a SB potential year.
                  Well you would at least get some value back with a pick and some cap relief. You would basically be buying a draft pick.

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                  • #24
                    I am not suggesting to blow the whole thing up. What I’m saying is add “The Most Necessary Piece Now” and go win the damn thing. Go into attack mode instead of “Let’s see if we can get Lucky.” I like our chances using “Attack Mode” with the current landscape of things league wide. Win the damn thing and then make the moves you need to make. If we lose Kevin King and Aaron Jones and have to make a cut or two but have a World Championship then Oh Well!!!!!!

                    We have AR12 and a bunch of young players and the draft to reload. Keep Adams and Bak and Jaire. Pretty much everything else is replaceable based on what we have. Gute needs to start earning his $ and drafting better! That’s the bottom line!!

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                      Well you would at least get some value back with a pick and some cap relief. You would basically be buying a draft pick.
                      Selling defense for a WR.... If you’re talking about a vision of winning a title, better make sure that vision is complete.
                      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                      • #26
                        And taking huge dead money hits doesn’t open up cap space. It depletes it of both money and talent. Better make sure you think your vision all the way through or it just turns into a big failure that sounded good in your head.
                        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                          And taking huge dead money hits doesn’t open up cap space. It depletes it of both money and talent. Better make sure you think your vision all the way through or it just turns into a big failure that sounded good in your head.
                          Right now I’m not selling anything unless it presented me an option to get an ULTIMATE GAME CHANGER on offense like Julio Jones etc etc. I’m not particularly happy overall with P. Smith or Amos right now. They both played better against Houston and we need to see how they finish out the season. If Preston Smith continues to play at his “54.7” grade which matches his tape overall you have to consider options and count your losses is what I’m saying. Hanging onto players for previous years past production can lead to a road to hell.

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                          • #28
                            Preston had his best game against Houston. I thought Keke, Adams and Lowry all had their best games too. Maybe that’s Clark being back and in form. The defense looks to be taking off.
                            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                              Preston had his best game against Houston. I thought Keke, Adams and Lowry all had their best games too. Maybe that’s Clark being back and in form. The defense looks to be taking off.
                              As I posted before the game “Houston historically has bad O-Line play and could be a boost for Packers pass rush.” So while it was good to see I’m not sold yet. It was good to see them take care of business though and get some good depth play. If they can build on this and get better that would be great!

                              Consistency is the Key!!

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                              • #30
                                Clark, Keke and Adams all had run defense grades over 75. Lowry over 70.

                                All except Adams had overall grades above 70.


                                So the impression matches up with Pff. They had a huge day on the DL. And so far this year, Lancaster is our top rated lineman. So those 5 guys are coming on. That might be opening up Preston now to see better opportunities.
                                Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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