AARON JONES----WHERE IS HE IN THE RB TIERS ? ?

[Harlan Huckleby]

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[Harlan Huckleby]

Hard to believe there is so much negativity in here about Aaron Jones.

I think it is obvious to all that JOnes is a special player. I'm not sure the RB position is so critical unless we're talking a top 5 back in one of their prime years.

Williams is also very versatile. Jones adds a threat to get 30 yards. But when Rodgers is hot he gets 30 yard plays far more often than Jones can run for 30. It's a passing league. Williams is good enough to give team the necessary running balance. The packers big need is at WR. They have decent depth at RB.

[texaspackerbacker]

Ordinarily I'd agree about investing in RBs. Aaron Jones, though, is IMO the best we've had since Ahman Green, and he is a speed back - something a lot more valuable IMO than a power back like Henry. Jamal Williams is of course, good in his own way, but he is not that kind of breakaway threat. As for those "grass is greener somewhere else" guys mentioned, I wouldn't take Kamara straight up for Jones. Jones is faster - game speed anyway in case somebody is gonna produce some 40 time saying Kamara or McCaffrey are faster. Jones also has been more durable. He has been every bit as versatile as a receiver, etc. And he has shown enough power and short yardage ability to squeeze through holes - only failing when there is no blocking at all and a wall of D like that play in the J-ville game. I doubt even Henry would have gained anything in that circumstance.

And we do NOT have a "big need" at WR. We have one of the 2 or 3 best in the league, and we have a more than decent #2 when Lazard is back, and MVS has a helluva lot more ability than most teams' #3. And beyond that, we have a couple other decent alternatives too.

As for it being a passing league and the Packers being a pass first team, yeah, you're preaching to the choir on that. We do, however, need a change of pace - a breakaway threat at RB.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Some personal news: I don't give a fuck about all the schemes to upgrade the Packer roster by cutting players and seeking greener grass. I want packers to keep Jones and pretty much all their players, with a few exceptions. I've given up on most of the D-line.

The NFL has become the NFFL (national fantasy football league). There is too much turnover of interchangeable parts. Every time I watch an NFL game there are ex-packers who are no better or worse than their replacement in Green Bay.

I realize all the hard core fans on this website disagree with me. That's because most of the posters here are scoundrels and losers. Buncha sociopaths playing Madden in their mom's basement who don't give a fuck about the human element. Why in the days of real football...

[Spaulding]

If this is purely a discussion on Jones talent as compared to the rest of the starting RB's in the league then I'd agree with most in that he's in the 6-10 range given his receiving prowess but his injuries (he's only played one complete season during the time we've had him), short yardage weakness and being subbed normally on 3rd down takes him down a notch. Not a complete surprise, Williams is reported to have been our most successful 3rd down back this year (although I wonder if this is skewed due to Jones missing a few games):

- https://247sports.com/nfl/green-bay-...nts-154921494/

As for his value in the league, that obviously remains to be seen and set by the FA market but I'll be surprised the Packers retain him given the amount of money just promised to Clark and now Bak.

From a value standpoint, just picking the years that Aaron has been with the Packers suggests that our leading rusher's yardage varies greatly and thus having a bell cow has been a blessing but not a must for success. Jones YPC stand out though and would be interesting to compare against the other backs listed in the discussion.

Year Leading Rusher Carries Yardage YPC TD's
2020 Aaron Jones 103 493 4.8 5
2019 Aaron Jones 236 1,084 4.6 16
2018 Aaron Jones 133 728 5.5 8
2017 Jamaal Williams 153 556 3.6 4
2016 Ty Montgomery 77 457 5.9 3
2015 Eddie Lacy 187 758 4.1 3
2014 Eddie Lacy 246 1,139 4.6 9
2013 Eddie Lacy 284 1,178 4.1 11
2012 Alex Green 135 464 3.4 0
2011 James Starks 133 578 4.3 1
2010 Brandon Jackson 190 703 3.7 3
2009 Ryan Grant 282 1,253 4.4 11
2008 Ryan Grant 312 1,203 3.9 4
2007 Ryan Grant 188 956 5.1 8
2006 Ahman Green 266 1,059 4.0 5
2005 Samkon Gado 143 582 4.1 6

Granted we've changed coaches and systems in the last two years and LaFleur likes balance but was used to a different type of RB and I think Dillon was clearly drafted as Jones replacement within nothing changing since then.

Would be ideal to keep Jones as he's a talented weapon and one of the better backs in the league but more a luxury that the Packers likely can't afford next year and will roll on without.

[Harlan Huckleby]

THat's a lot of mediocre featured back right there. I want Jones kept for entertainment purposes only.

[Upnorth]

I miss Ryan grant. Vastly underrated. Also we had a few discussions about him back in the day.

[Zool]

Ahh Fat Eddie. Why couldn’t he stop eating?

[call_me_ishmael]

That first year or two of Eddie Lacy was so damn good. Then the China Food got to him. Tale as old as time. China Food done me wrong too.

[Smidgeon]

If this is purely a discussion on Jones talent as compared to the rest of the starting RB's in the league then I'd agree with most in that he's in the 6-10 range given his receiving prowess but his injuries (he's only played one complete season during the time we've had him), short yardage weakness and being subbed normally on 3rd down takes him down a notch. Not a complete surprise, Williams is reported to have been our most successful 3rd down back this year (although I wonder if this is skewed due to Jones missing a few games):

- https://247sports.com/nfl/green-bay-...nts-154921494/

As for his value in the league, that obviously remains to be seen and set by the FA market but I'll be surprised the Packers retain him given the amount of money just promised to Clark and now Bak.

From a value standpoint, just picking the years that Aaron has been with the Packers suggests that our leading rusher's yardage varies greatly and thus having a bell cow has been a blessing but not a must for success. Jones YPC stand out though and would be interesting to compare against the other backs listed in the discussion.

Year	Leading Rusher	Carries	Yardage	YPC	TDs
2020	Aaron Jones	103	493	4.8	5
2019	Aaron Jones	236	1084	4.6 	16
2018	Aaron Jones	133	728	5.5	8
2017	Jamaal Williams 153	556	3.6	4
2016	Ty Montgomery	77	457	5.9	3
2015	Eddie Lacy	187	758	4.1	3
2014	Eddie Lacy	246	1139	4.6	9
2013	Eddie Lacy	284	1178	4.1	11
2012	Alex Green 	135	464	3.4	0
2011	James Starks	133	578	4.3	1
2010	Brandon Jackson 190	703	3.7	3
2009	Ryan Grant	282	1253	4.4	11
2008	Ryan Grant	312	1203	3.9	4
2007	Ryan Grant	188	956	5.1	8
2006	Ahman Green	266	1059	4.0	5
2005	Samkon Gado	143	582	4.1	6

Granted we've changed coaches and systems in the last two years and LaFleur likes balance but was used to a different type of RB and I think Dillon was clearly drafted as Jones replacement within nothing changing since then.

Would be ideal to keep Jones as he's a talented weapon and one of the better backs in the league but more a luxury that the Packers likely can't afford next year and will roll on without.

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[Spaulding]

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[Smidgeon]

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