Packers projected 2021 draft priorities

[Bretsky]

Tonyan and Deguara gonna be a nice pair if Deguara can recover well from that knee. Stergberger has a chance too if he can get his pass pro figured out.

I'm excited about the development of Tonyan

But did Deguara really show anybody anything ? To me he was Rashan Gary Rookie Season invisible and was our typical 3rd round...overdrafted...draft pick

[smuggler]

He got open on the two targets he saw. Rodgers overthrew him on what probably would have been about a 25 yard reception. And he was contributing as a blocker as an H-back. He might not become what we'd want from a 3rd round pick, but if he plays 5-6 years like he did in those few games, he'll help us get wins.

[RashanGary]

I'm excited about the development of Tonyan

But did Deguara really show anybody anything ? To me he was Rashan Gary Rookie Season invisible and was our typical 3rd round...overdrafted...draft pick

Rookies almost always suck. Three years in you get a better read.

[Upnorth]

He got open on the two targets he saw. Rodgers overthrew him on what probably would have been about a 25 yard reception. And he was contributing as a blocker as an H-back. He might not become what we'd want from a 3rd round pick, but if he plays 5-6 years like he did in those few games, he'll help us get wins.

I thinker an average starter is what you want from a 3rd round pick. Anything more is unreasonable expectation. 1st round I want near pro bowl 2nd high quality starter. 3rd and 4th average starter. 5ths and onwards occasional starter and backups / st

[gbgary]

i think OTC has tonyan's valuation at over $7m per. he just might be the next guy extended.

[Joemailman]

I'm excited about the development of Tonyan

But did Deguara really show anybody anything ? To me he was Rashan Gary Rookie Season invisible and was our typical 3rd round...overdrafted...draft pick

He only played in 2 games. I recall being impressed with his blocking in the little bit of playing time he had. I suspect a lot of rookies this year had a tough time making an early impression with the lost offseason time and preseason games.

[run pMc]

RFA's usually don't move teams often.

Tonyan is having an excellent year by advanced statistics, and is leading in many of them with guys like Kittle and Ertz hurt. He's a bit underrated but I think he'll get some interest. I think Gute likes him and will try to keep him. Deguara was drafted a little early but I liked him as a player. I think he can do a little bit of everything and be a solid role player for them.

Chandon Sullivan will get interest. He was very good last year in limited snaps and has proven to be just as good with more snaps as a starter in the slot. He can play outside in a pinch but he's better in the slot and those guys have value. Losing him and King would be tough -- I don't think they have the players to replace both.

Boyle, Nickerson, Lancaster won't get much if any interest. Redmond and Greene might not either. I think they'll try to replace Greene with another draft pick or Vernon Scott. Redmond is interesting because he was a CB drafted R3 by SF who flamed out with injuries, but he's been an ok S/CB hybrid depth piece. I think if you want to play a lot of dime like Pettine does he's got value, but not much over the vet minimum, especially in a tight cap year.

I think they have Bahk signed, now it's a matter of what to do with Jones and if there are underperforming players that should be cut for cap space.
The other FA/RFA's will likely be replaced with inexpensive players and draft picks.
This past draft would have been a good one to have a lot of cheap draft pick players - they'd be 2nd year players heading into a season under a COVID reduced cap. Can probably say the same for the upcoming draft.

[smuggler]

Gotta say, I'd rather have Lancaster at whatever his tender might be than keep Lowry at his price tag.

[Joemailman]

Gotta say, I'd rather have Lancaster at whatever his tender might be than keep Lowry at his price tag.

You can let Lancaster become a free agent and probably sign him for less than the tender if you really want to keep him.

[texaspackerbacker]

Tonyan, Sullivan, and maybe Greene are the only RFAs on that list I'd keep at all.

Regarding Deguara, and basically the whole early part of this years draft, the Packers were horrendously bad at drafting where they had absolutely no need. Love is the prime example, but Dillon and Deguara the same. The half joking idea some float out that Love was drafted to motivate Aaron Rodgers is IMO the ONLY possible reason for and good that could come from that pick.

[Bretsky]

Rookies almost always suck. Three years in you get a better read.

It seems to depend on position

You don't see many rookie TE's excelling

But at RB/WR/CB/S/OLB /DL some flash a ton of talent right away.

Look at this year

You can see Swift has talent. Justin Herbert, Tou, Burrow all look like they can play now.
CeDee Lamb, Jeudy, Jefferson, Claypool, Denzel Mims, Michael Pittman have shown they belong.

But not many TE's excel from the get go it seems

[RashanGary]

It seems to depend on position

You don't see many rookie TE's excelling

But at RB/WR/CB/S/OLB /DL some flash a ton of talent right away.

Look at this year

You can see Swift has talent. Justin Herbert, Tou, Burrow all look like they can play now.
CeDee Lamb, Jeudy, Jefferson, Claypool, Denzel Mims, Michael Pittman have shown they belong.

But not many TE's excel from the get go it seems

Aaron Rodgers, Nick Collins, TJ Lang, Jordy Nelson, Davante Adams, Kenny Clark, even Jaire was so/so as a rookie.

Most great players take a couple years to reach their potential.

[run pMc]

The half joking idea some float out that Love was drafted to motivate Aaron Rodgers is IMO the ONLY possible reason for and good that could come from that pick.

I don't think this was the case at all, although it makes for nice online gossip. Rodgers is 37; Ron Wolf was drafting QBs for a while with Favre as the QB -- Hasselbeck, Brooks, Detmer, Rodgers. Drafting Love is really no different. What is different is that Gute spent a R1 and a R4 to draft a QB to basically be a fantasy handcuff to Rodgers. I didn't like that part. I like Tim Boyle, but honestly I doubt he's ultimately the heir apparent to Rodgers. If Rodgers does play until 43 or whatever, one of two things will have happened: either Love will be gone (traded/cut) or Rodgers will.

If Rodgers continues to play at MVP-consideration level for a few years and Love shows talent, they can trade him for a couple of picks (likely more than a low R1 and a R4).

To suggest the pick was to motivate Rodgers seems... wrong, especially given how he's bought into MLF's offense, how well he's playing, and the fact that he seems to be enjoying this team.

[run pMc]

You don't see many rookie TE's excelling

Agree. TE's rarely excel right away because the learning curve going from college to pros is pretty steep.

[texaspackerbacker]

I don't think this was the case at all, although it makes for nice online gossip. Rodgers is 37; Ron Wolf was drafting QBs for a while with Favre as the QB -- Hasselbeck, Brooks, Detmer, Rodgers. Drafting Love is really no different. What is different is that Gute spent a R1 and a R4 to draft a QB to basically be a fantasy handcuff to Rodgers. I didn't like that part. I like Tim Boyle, but honestly I doubt he's ultimately the heir apparent to Rodgers. If Rodgers does play until 43 or whatever, one of two things will have happened: either Love will be gone (traded/cut) or Rodgers will.

If Rodgers continues to play at MVP-consideration level for a few years and Love shows talent, they can trade him for a couple of picks (likely more than a low R1 and a R4).

To suggest the pick was to motivate Rodgers seems... wrong, especially given how he's bought into MLF's offense, how well he's playing, and the fact that he seems to be enjoying this team.

The high level of the pick as well as trading up for it is what makes the difference with regard to the stupidity of the pick.

I did not mean they did it to motivate Rodgers; I meant some are joking around about that. But the real point is, there is absolutely no justification whatsoever for being so damn stupid to draft a QB that high other than the possibility that it has motivated Rodgers. And if Gutekunst is so supremely idiotic to let Rodgers go, if he does that, regardless of anything else - other players, coaching scheme, etc., the Packers will certainly go right in the toilet and remain there indefinitely. And if that happens, the good citizens of Green Bay better run the guy out of town and maybe even kill his dog - and I say that as a dog lover.