Studs and Duds, Colts.

[GB-Brandon]

I'd compare the Packers to everybody in the NFL in the most important category (IMO): total wins. Since 2000, the Packers are 4th. The Patriots are 1st, Steelers 2nd, and (surprisingly to me), Colts 3rd. Out of 32 teams, I'm not gonna complain too much about that.

Then maybe they should call it “4th in Total wins since 2000 Town” cause to me it’s false advertising. To spend millions and millions of dollars expanding a district and zone of a city predicated on a misleading theme that hasn’t delivered since 2010 doesn’t jive with me!!

[Upnorth]

Studs:

Packers first half.

Duds:

Packers second half, from the top down.

Packers fans for death threats to MVS. What. The. Fuck. Over?

This is 100% correct. I understand why there was no half time adjustment on our side, we were up 21-7 so just keep doing that. However once they shut us down why didntvwe pivot then?
Also from an emotional perspective the vikings loss and Jax win were more demoralizing than this for me.

Gotta fix the d. That many opportunities when they were in long yardage situations from indy penalties and not enough to show from it.

[Bossman641]

Why are we ALWAYS playing off coverage??

[run pMc]

Why are we ALWAYS playing off coverage??

Given they have corners who can press (King, Hollman) or matchup (Jaire, Sullivan) I'm not sure. They play the outside corners too far off, and their zone coverage are too soft. Against Indy they basically would get them to 3rd and long and then play prevent defense. That combined with iffy tackling lead to a number of third down conversions.

Best I can tell, it's the Pettine scheme. It was like this in his previous stops.

[Bossman641]

Given they have corners who can press (King, Hollman) or matchup (Jaire, Sullivan) I'm not sure. They play the outside corners too far off, and their zone coverage are too soft. Against Indy they basically would get them to 3rd and long and then play prevent defense. That combined with iffy tackling lead to a number of third down conversions.

Best I can tell, it's the Pettine scheme. It was like this in his previous stops.

It's not even third down exclusive. Between soft run D and coverage cushions, I feel like teams can get themselves in favorable down and distances pretty easily against us.

[texaspackerbacker]

The off-coverage may be a bend-don't-break thing - not giving up big plays, and bad as Pettine's scheme have been, that's one thing in their favor, not giving up many long TD passes. The need of DBs to help out that weak run D probably also has something to do with it.

runpMc, I'd disagree that King is good in press coverage. Honestly, I don't think he does anything very well, but he seems best at dropping back in a zone. I've always thought he might make a better Safety than Corner.

[GB-Brandon]

King is “Very Average” and can’t stay healthy. BYE BYE to Kevin King. Let some team over pay him.

[bobblehead]

King is “Very Average” and can’t stay healthy. BYE BYE to Kevin King. Let some team over pay him.

I agree and disagree. He is actually pretty good, but can't stay healthy. If he resigns in the $8 million range, we gotta keep him. If someone offers more then he walks. Personally I still want to spend 3 years at $24 million on Cory Davis and not draft a rookie. Rodgers will turn Davis into a star. He knows Flower. He was a top 5 pick who got stuck on a run first offense headed by Marriota. He flashes, but looks like a really good #2 who run blocks. Perfect fit.

[Bretsky]

I agree and disagree. He is actually pretty good, but can't stay healthy. If he resigns in the $8 million range, we gotta keep him. If someone offers more then he walks. Personally I still want to spend 3 years at $24 million on Cory Davis and not draft a rookie. Rodgers will turn Davis into a star. He knows Flower. He was a top 5 pick who got stuck on a run first offense headed by Marriota. He flashes, but looks like a really good #2 who run blocks. Perfect fit.

I can buy into this; I'd rather have Davis than King.

And I do think KKing is pretty good when healthy; but it will never forgive the epic F'ck up of drafting him over TJ Watt

[GB-Brandon]

I agree and disagree. He is actually pretty good, but can't stay healthy. If he resigns in the $8 million range, we gotta keep him. If someone offers more then he walks. Personally I still want to spend 3 years at $24 million on Cory Davis and not draft a rookie. Rodgers will turn Davis into a star. He knows Flower. He was a top 5 pick who got stuck on a run first offense headed by Marriota. He flashes, but looks like a really good #2 who run blocks. Perfect fit.

Cory Davis is more then fine with me.

[GB-Brandon]

I can buy into this; I'd rather have Davis than King.

And I do think KKing is pretty good when healthy; but it will never forgive the epic F'ck up of drafting him over TJ Watt

They drafted him over Joe Mixon too!!

[GB-Brandon]

The Packers certainly can’t blame draft position. The players have been there. They have failed for such a team that prides itself at drafting so well and developing. They haven’t done well enough. That’s the bottom line.