More Banjo - Packers vs Titans

[Joemailman]

It's ironic that Dillon's first significant game came against Tennessee because I suspect another Derrick Henry is exactly what Gute and MLF had in mind when they drafted Dillon.

Some 40 times:

A.J. Dillon 4.53
Derrick Henry 4.54
Davante Adams 4.56
Aaron Jones 4.56

[bobblehead]

If we let Jones walk (and we should) my wish list is to draft Kenneth Gainwell in the 2nd round. Dude is undersized, but has great vision and hands/routes like a WR.

[GB-Brandon]

If we let Jones walk (and we should) my wish list is to draft Kenneth Gainwell in the 2nd round. Dude is undersized, but has great vision and hands/routes like a WR.

I like Kylin Hill in the 3-4th round area. Amazing value there as far as I’m concerned. Very comparable skill set to AJ. Will have to wait how combine etc etc and all that stuff shakes out. He did quit team after locker room fight this year.

I also have my eye on an amazing 2nd round WR prospect!!!

[Joemailman]

If we let Jones walk (and we should) my wish list is to draft Kenneth Gainwell in the 2nd round. Dude is undersized, but has great vision and hands/routes like a WR.

Not sure I want to use a 2nd round pick on a RB 2 years in a row. But he would be a great fit. Brandon mentioned Kylin Hill. It's beyond early, but Draft Network has Gainwell at #98 0verall, Hill at #128 overall. https://thedraftnetwork.com/prospect-rankings

[run pMc]

If we let Jones walk (and we should) my wish list is to draft Kenneth Gainwell in the 2nd round. Dude is undersized, but has great vision and hands/routes like a WR.

I'm with this, although I'd prefer him in R3. R2 for another RB feels high, although with where GB is likely to be drafting it's practically a R3. Etienne and the two RBs from UNC will likely be the first ones off the board, and Etienne might be late R1.

Javian Hawkins is another one who could be a speed back to Dillon's power. Honestly I think OL, DL and CB will get first looks, unless there's a stud there and Jones walks. I think RB might be an early Day 3 pick though. GB has 10 picks; I think the cap might restrict using them from trading up a lot. First contract players are cheap. I wonder if a lot of teams will try to trade down, so maybe they can move around without giving up a lot.

[run pMc]

Not sure I want to use a 2nd round pick on a RB 2 years in a row. But he would be a great fit. Brandon mentioned Kylin Hill. It's beyond early, but Draft Network has Gainwell at #98 0verall, Hill at #128 overall. https://thedraftnetwork.com/prospect-rankings

Not surprisingly, sometimes their prospect rankings are waaay off. (Dax Raymond in R3? Elgton Jenkins in R4?)

Right now the rankings are really weird, but a lot of it is off 2019 season and I don't think they'll get more thoroughly updated for another month.
I played around with their draft machine the other day and it was all big men in the trenches and the top CB/WRs going fast. There were lots of RBs and S available in mid/late rounds.

Agree picking another RB in R2 would be a stunner and is unlikely.

[run pMc]

I also have my eye on an amazing 2nd round WR prospect!!!

Am curious about this.
There are some saying the WR class this year might be as good as last year, but with the weird CFB schedule it's hard to judge.
Looked a little bit at Austin Watkins since he seems like a big body, early-Day 3 type that Gute might go for. Seems to runs the go, deep post, and back shoulder routes well enough.

They might like their current crop of WR on the roster, but I really think they have to consider drafting another WR before R5. The offense would be really something with better talent, and if they have any plans of playing Jordan Love they have to surround him with talent.

[GB-Brandon]

Draft Network has one of my better prospects at #194. Now he did suffer a knee injury and it is very early so I guess we will just leave it at that for now and focus on this run we’re on.

But just for kicks and giggles this will be a guy I will have a close eye on as far as medicals that are disclosed and combine etc etc. I’ve watched him all year and his film alone at this early stage has him as a 2nd-3rd round grade for me early on. Very Explosive route runner. One of the best in the country actually. Great at the catch point. His combine will be very important. He has those things I look for. Could be “That Piece” for this Packer offense!! It was really tough to see him hurt his knee as he was just dominating everyone. Basically unstoppable!!! I like this kid a lot.

These are “Last Year Highlights”. He was even better this year. Tough to say right now where he will land but he has the tape.

[RashanGary]

I'm down for a WR in the late first or second this year.

A. Most team's are either loaded up already or loaded up last year so WR's should slip

B. It's a deep class to begin with


The combination of the above listed A and Bs makes for a multiplier effect and I highly doubt Gute can pass up on that kind of value, even with the best offense in the league already.

[texaspackerbacker]

This is pretty much it. 3rd and long or playing from behind and needing to score means certain things for the running back position. Things like pass protection, screen ability, intelligence and chemistry with the QB, route running and hands, and maybe the ability to run a little too. Those things matter more when you have to pass than pure running ability. Must pass situations are a decent part of every NFL game and a huge part if you're behind to a good team in the playoffs. Other than Kamara and McCaffrey, Williams is the 3rd best 3rd down back in the NFL. And because he's cheap and played so much ball with 12,it makes him even more valuable to our team.

As far as Dillon, he is a speed back. He's just as fast as Jones. He will break many a huge run in his career.

You and Brandon are dead wrong on this. It is absolutely essential to re-sign Aaron Jones. Speed on the field is often a helluva lot different from 40 time. Jones, Derrick Henry, and many others demonstrate that. Also, it is not a mistake to use Jones in short yardage. Anybody, even Dillon, even Henry, whoever, can get stopped if he's hit early or by a big enough crowd. Jones is way better than most at either dodging an early hit or getting low and getting in against a short yardage D.

I wouldn't mind at all having all three - Jones, Dillon, and Williams - but I'm not so sure Williams will be that cheap, and as things are evolving, he is definitely the third best of the three.

[texaspackerbacker]

And no, it still would not be wise to draft a WR early this year. We are way more than adequate with Davante, Lazard, MVS, St. Brown, and Malik Taylor plus our abundance of TEs. Maybe we get one more guy late, if that.

[Joemailman]

And no, it still would not be wise to draft a WR early this year. We are way more than adequate with Davante, Lazard, MVS, St. Brown, and Malik Taylor plus our abundance of TEs. Maybe we get one more guy late, if that.

If a guy is available you think is great, you don't want to pass on him. Should TT have passed on Jordy Nelson because he had Driver, Jennings and James Jones?

[texaspackerbacker]

First of all, that was 3 instead of 4 or 5. As I recall - I could be wrong, when Nelson was drafted, WR was talked about as a primary need by most people. We probably have more important considerations this time.

[GB-Brandon]

I'm with this, although I'd prefer him in R3. R2 for another RB feels high, although with where GB is likely to be drafting it's practically a R3. Etienne and the two RBs from UNC will likely be the first ones off the board, and Etienne might be late R1.

Javian Hawkins is another one who could be a speed back to Dillon's power. Honestly I think OL, DL and CB will get first looks, unless there's a stud there and Jones walks. I think RB might be an early Day 3 pick though. GB has 10 picks; I think the cap might restrict using them from trading up a lot. First contract players are cheap. I wonder if a lot of teams will try to trade down, so maybe they can move around without giving up a lot.

Demteic Felton(UCLA) is another option. He could be got later and can play both RB and receiver. Would be a nice toy in LaFluers system. My main point being is there will be life after Aaron Jones as much as it hurts!

[GB-Brandon]

First of all, that was 3 instead of 4 or 5. As I recall - I could be wrong, when Nelson was drafted, WR was talked about as a primary need by most people. We probably have more important considerations this time.

Well the Packer front office doesn’t agree with you as they tried to make a huge mid-season trade for top tier WR at the dead line. I fully expect a receiver to be drafted in the first couple rounds and the Packers don’t have a single one under contract after 2021. It’s pretty simple math man!!!