Official 2021 NFL Draft Thread

[GB-Brandon]

I could easily develop a draft crush on Bateman or Marshall out of LSU.

Kadarius Toney has crazy balance but I don't think he's a burner. Would be awesome on jet sweeps, screens, and punt returns -- basically, a better Tyler Ervin. That's the thing -- he feels more like a gadget player than a true wideout to me, and while I think MLF would love having a guy like him I am skeptical Gute values him as a late R1/early R2 pick (which is where he's expected to go as of this post).

Toney can run routes over the middle and lose people. He did it all season and did it at the Senior Bowl week as well.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Trey Lance is a lot like Jordan Love from his sophomore year (when he was surrounded by better talent).

[Massive J]

Could it be Rodgers ball as McCarthy is no longer here but it’s the same profile?

This is absolutely undeniable.

[GB-Brandon]

Trey Lance is a lot like Jordan Love from his sophomore year (when he was surrounded by better talent).

So we should get another QB to develop?

[GB-Brandon]

Using Fanspeak draft tool.

29: R1 P29 OT Christian Darrisaw - Virginia Tech
62: R2 P30 LB Chazz Surratt - North Carolina
92: R3 P28 DL Jay Tufele - USC
135: R4 P30 CB Robert Rochell - Central Arkansas
142: R4 P37 WR Jaelon Darden - North Texas
174: R5 P29 WR Trevon Grimes - Florida
178: R5 P33 G David Moore - Grambling State
215: R6 P29 C Quinn Meinerz - Wisconsin-Whitewater
221: R6 P35 S Divine Deablo - Virginia Tech
254: R7 P28 TE Quintin Morris - Bowling Green

Darrisaw makes a lot of sense in the transition to the “Power Run Game.” If they make the FA move at WR I like this move and could see this happening as it completes the job upfront with other supplemental pieces such as Deguara coming back next season.

Not as high on Surratt as others are. I think we could do better there. Could be something there with Tufele.

[run pMc]

So we should get another QB to develop?

I don't think that's where Harvey was going, but since you did: I don't think GB should draft a QB in R1, unless
(a) they traded Love for picks (unlikely since he hasn't had a single pro snap yet), or
(b) they know he's a flop and someone highly coveted drops to them (also unlikely for same reason, plus he likely needs an actual offseason and full year + in the system to show them either way).

Basically, QB is the most important position, given the league is about the passing game (either being able to execute it, or defend it). If you don't have a good QB, you need to find one. From a distance I thought ARI was crazy for drafting Rosen and then Murray, but they knew Rosen wasn't the answer and were smart to move on quickly. You keep looking until you find a good one, and then you hang onto them for dear life. Looking for one when your current QB is reaching the end of his career is smart. I would argue that if the OL can protect Rodgers like they did this year it will extend his career. 20 sacks is pretty good, and he showed he can still play at a very very high level.
So no, I wouldn't think they will spend more high-value resources on a QB, especially in a COVID-capped year with many FA leaving and basically all their WR gone after the next season.

Also, let's not forget GB drafted Brian fricking Brohm in R2 a few years after Rodgers.

[GB-Brandon]

I don't think that's where Harvey was going, but since you did: I don't think GB should draft a QB in R1, unless
(a) they traded Love for picks (unlikely since he hasn't had a single pro snap yet), or
(b) they know he's a flop and someone highly coveted drops to them (also unlikely for same reason, plus he likely needs an actual offseason and full year + in the system to show them either way).

Basically, QB is the most important position, given the league is about the passing game (either being able to execute it, or defend it). If you don't have a good QB, you need to find one. From a distance I thought ARI was crazy for drafting Rosen and then Murray, but they knew Rosen wasn't the answer and were smart to move on quickly. You keep looking until you find a good one, and then you hang onto them for dear life. Looking for one when your current QB is reaching the end of his career is smart. I would argue that if the OL can protect Rodgers like they did this year it will extend his career. 20 sacks is pretty good, and he showed he can still play at a very very high level.
So no, I wouldn't think they will spend more high-value resources on a QB, especially in a COVID-capped year with many FA leaving and basically all their WR gone after the next season.

Also, let's not forget GB drafted Brian fricking Brohm in R2 a few years after Rodgers.

They could probably package Love off to Washington right now for their 1st. We would net lose a 4th. I say do it and then look for a mid round prospect to develop. The Eagles are doing it with Hurts. This organization needs to go in one of two directions and quite fucking around.

A) Either make a full collective effort to support Rodgers with available resources and do whats needed to support roster to finish the deal.

B) Trade Rodgers and unwind and pull the plug and start fresh with the prospect “They Loved” and start the re-build and go full on with that. Sitting this dude and then having to pay him is just stupid. Takes all the value out of it.

This Mickey Mouse Crap trying to serve “Two Masters” bullshit has got to stop. It’s Maddening and i believe it probably just cost us a Super Bowl. Wanna try for another? I don’t!!

[Bretsky]

Trading love would equate to Gutebag admitting a mistake and he isn't going to do that this early in the game

[GB-Brandon]

Trading love would equate to Gutebag admitting a mistake and he isn't going to do that this early in the game

Just like Giving Rodgers an extension does so we’re probably not gonna see that either. Everyone wants this big “extension”, “extension”, “extension” which brings in “Corey Davis” which I don’t see happening.

We’re probably gonna get one Solo Cut Move to keep us just right there in the mix.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Trading love would equate to Gutebag admitting a mistake and he isn't going to do that this early in the game

What if Love turns out to be really good?

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

What if Love turns out to be really good?

Players are always a crapshoot, sometimes ya win and sometimes ya lose. I would think, however, that if Love was REALLY good, we would have heard rumors from the Packers training camp..

[GB-Brandon]

What if Love turns out to be really good?

Mark Brunell turned out to be pretty damn good. Life goes on! With Rodgers you have “A Bird In The Hand” coming off an MVP season and no signs of slowing down. He wants to stay in Green Bay and QB’s are playing longer these days. His particular skill set will allow him to play into his 40’s. The timelines currently don’t add up for these two players is the biggest problem moving forward unless something drastic happens. There will be no natural or seamless transition. The reach for a QB was done much too early all things considered. It is negatively messing with the whole dynamic of building a championship roster.

And thus far while it’s only been “Practice” J. Love has been a disappointment showing lots of inconsistency and the same decision making issues that plagued him at Utah State. Lots of “Second Guessing” So far and it’s not looking good. This I know.

[GB-Brandon]

The Packers are using “The Out Of Sight, Out Of Mind” approach with Jordan Love. We’ll see how longer they can get away with that!!!

[HarveyWallbangers]

Players are always a crapshoot, sometimes ya win and sometimes ya lose. I would think, however, that if Love was REALLY good, we would have heard rumors from the Packers training camp..

Let’s not even wait for a preseason game. Let’s write him off because we didn’t hear anything at a scaled down training camp where media was allowed less access.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Let’s not even wait for a preseason game. Let’s write him off because we didn’t hear anything at a scaled down training camp where media was allowed less access.

Not sure I want to write him off. Just saying usually, not always, if a guy is REALLY good, you hear something. Hopefully, we are not put in a position to prematurely discard him before finding the truth for ourselves.