Official 2021 NFL Draft Thread

[run pMc]

What's happened to this and other threads is why people like me and some others hardly post here anymore. This place sucks.

Beginning to agree with you. There are a growing number of days where I visit to read posts and it's like reading the ravings of lunatics.

[GB-Brandon]

You seriously need to grow some consisency in your position. You can't complain about Hundley and Tolzien when (a) those were TT moves, and (b) THEY JUST DRAFTED JORDAN LOVE. You can't complain about Gute doing this out of one side of your mouth and then talk about how GB will suck indefinitely after Rodgers, when you have no proof this will happen unless you are a psychic. Also, last I heard Rodgers IS coming back to play for GB next season.

Honestly, you carpet bomb this forum with so much random & often ignorant puke that it's hard to have a conversation with other posters, which could be done at other forums.
I also wonder why, if everything the team does is so terrible, you actually cheer for them. If you're a fan of Rodgers, then just be a Rodgers fan and not a Packers complainer. Root for the team or don't.

Well if you can’t win the Super Bowl with Greatest QB Of ALL Time then How Are You Going To Win It Without Him?

Saying “he represents 15 or even 25 percent of the success” over the last 10 years or so is just embarrassing and shows ZERO APPRECIATION for what he has done for this franchise & organization. I am no longer going to respond to such stupid shit that is just designed to get a rise out of me. It’a so far out there it’s not even something worthy of being debated.

Jorda Love!!! LOL!!!!!! Have fun with that!!

[bobblehead]

Left tackle

Clifton
Newhouse for a year
Bakhtiari

Right tackle
Taush
Bulaga
Turner for a year

Left guard
Colledge
Sitton
One down year
Jenkins

Center
Wells
Tretter
Lindsley

RG
Spitz
Lang
Turner


He’s had consistently good OLs, consistently good receiving weapons and Grant, Lacy and Jones at running back.




Rodgers, outside of 2017/2018 has had elite supporting casts on offense.

You must have blocked Brandon also or you would know that all those players sucked and Rodgers elevated them. The only reason we didn't go 4-12 every year with such trash is Rodgers!!!

[MadtownPacker]

Beginning to agree with you. There are a growing number of days where I visit to read posts and it's like reading the ravings of lunatics.

i want everyone to know I am banning Brandon for 2 weeks. He is been told so now you guys can see of things are better without him.

[GB-Brandon]

True, probably, but leave me out of this. I've got nothing against Brandon or for him either for that matter.

This is just one of those times when there ain't much happening. In a few days, we come up to the free agent deadline, and either there will be a lot of news to comment on or there will be plenty of reason to complain that nothing got done.

And with no Rodgers restructure looking like it will be done it will mostly be “Complaining Of Nothing” and that will be that and the end of it.

[bobblehead]

Recent tone here should bring back the question.

Is paying a QB really worth it if its not one of the top 5 in the league? This offseason is like none I ever have seen. Wentz, Wilson, Watson, Stafford/Goff, Jimmy G. So many QBs who have been paid seeing serious drama this offseason. Continuity in a system is important, but so is having a team around a guy. We are unique in having what I consider the current #2 QB in football, so having his contract to work around is worth it. But if we had nearly anyone else in the league I would not be happy. Wilson is good, but he shouldn't be paid like Rodgers. Wentz and Goff...Ha! Watson is young and incredible, but his stats are accumulated in garbage time. He has shown no ability to elevate a team (he has been held back by O'Brien). Jimmy G...again HA! Matt Ryan. Choker. I can do this all day. Give me Bortles or Cam at $5 million. Give me Boyle at league minimum. I can build a winner around them.

[RashanGary]

Recent tone here should bring back the question.

Is paying a QB really worth it if its not one of the top 5 in the league? This offseason is like none I ever have seen. Wentz, Wilson, Watson, Stafford/Goff, Jimmy G. So many QBs who have been paid seeing serious drama this offseason. Continuity in a system is important, but so is having a team around a guy. We are unique in having what I consider the current #2 QB in football, so having his contract to work around is worth it. But if we had nearly anyone else in the league I would not be happy. Wilson is good, but he shouldn't be paid like Rodgers. Wentz and Goff...Ha! Watson is young and incredible, but his stats are accumulated in garbage time. He has shown no ability to elevate a team (he has been held back by O'Brien). Jimmy G...again HA! Matt Ryan. Choker. I can do this all day. Give me Bortles or Cam at $5 million. Give me Boyle at league minimum. I can build a winner around them.

There are a lot of solid quarterbacks right now. While you’re usually, and in this case, a little on the far on the linear or black and white scale, I do mostly agree with this. Get a good cheap QB and stack pieces around him. Problem is, when he succeeds he’s not cheap anymore.

Rodgers bringing the mobile QB play to new levels, a lot of guys have come in and sort of mimicked his game (Wilson, Mahommes, Watson, etc) With the new skillset being as successful as the old anticipation pocket passer, now there are more solid quarterbacks than ever because a few styles can all succeed.

I’m less obsessed with the QB position than 15 years ago with the huge pool of solid ones. But like you said, you have to get one of the cheap ones if he’s not a great one, then you can stack around him.

[texaspackerbacker]

Now is not the time to whine about "no Rodgers restructure", as it almost certainly will get done. If it doesn't, then hell yeah, there is a lot of reason to complain.

The reason teams pay non-top five QBs big money is the same reason people speculate on stock or bet on games - they think they have a reasonable expectation the guy will become top five or whatever quality. It may turn out to be a dumb move, but at the time it is done, it makes sense. Again, we're talking about the LUCK factor. Who could have predicted Wentz would flop or Goff would not progress more, etc. or that others like Russell Wilson or Dak Prescott would do way better than expectation based on where they were drafted?

There have always been mobile QBs, but precious few of them could throw like Rodgers or even close. And that few goes to none when you factor in the good sense and discipline to not throw picks.

[red]

Recent tone here should bring back the question.

Is paying a QB really worth it if its not one of the top 5 in the league? This offseason is like none I ever have seen. Wentz, Wilson, Watson, Stafford/Goff, Jimmy G. So many QBs who have been paid seeing serious drama this offseason. Continuity in a system is important, but so is having a team around a guy. We are unique in having what I consider the current #2 QB in football, so having his contract to work around is worth it. But if we had nearly anyone else in the league I would not be happy. Wilson is good, but he shouldn't be paid like Rodgers. Wentz and Goff...Ha! Watson is young and incredible, but his stats are accumulated in garbage time. He has shown no ability to elevate a team (he has been held back by O'Brien). Jimmy G...again HA! Matt Ryan. Choker. I can do this all day. Give me Bortles or Cam at $5 million. Give me Boyle at league minimum. I can build a winner around them.

I have always found it insane that just because an elite player gets huge money, people then say that that new number is now the starting number for all starters at that position.

That's just nuts imo

It's really destroying the nfl. You can no longer afford to have a "decent" vet started at QB. Either you have an elite QB, or a decent QB on his rookie deal. It just doesn't pay to have anyone else at QB

As for tex and the idea of restructuring rodgers. That all depends on what the team wants to do with him. I still think the idea was to have 2021 be his last year in green bay. If you restructure him, that all but makes moving on from him impossible for the next few years.

I think rodgers playing so well this year might have really screwed up the teams plans for after this year or next

We'll see who our near future QB will be depending on if they restructure him or not in the coming weeks

[sharpe1027]

As Red suggested, restructuring Rodgers locks you in longer. I hardly ever subscribe to the win now mantra. This might be the exception. Frankly, the team is probably screwed after he either falls off in production or goes elsewhere. Sure, we could get lucky and find another HoF QB. We'll have plenty of time to build around him if we do.

[KYPack]

i want everyone to know I am banning Brandon for 2 weeks. He is been told so now you guys can see of things are better without him.

Many thanks Mad.

The guy is totally bazoots.

Run's comments go double for me.

The guy is worse than old RBALOHA was.

[texaspackerbacker]

Yeah, restructuring Rodgers makes it near impossible to "move on" from Rodgers - it's incomprehensible that anybody who loves the Packers would actually have a problem with that.

[HarveyWallbangers]

As for tex and the idea of restructuring rodgers. That all depends on what the team wants to do with him. I still think the idea was to have 2021 be his last year in green bay. If you restructure him, that all but makes moving on from him impossible for the next few years.

Not necessarily. Depends on how much they restructure. The don't have to turn all of his bonuses into a signing bonus -- just enough to get done what they want done. I could see a couple more cuts and a few more restructures -- just enough to sign a couple of players (whether that's Jones and Watt, a guy or two from another team, or a combination).

[HarveyWallbangers]

Rashod Bateman reportedly ran 4.37-4.39ish at his virtual Pro Day--much like Justin Jefferson surprised last year. If that's anywhere close to being trustworthy, the guy is not going to be available at our pick.

[sharpe1027]

Yeah, restructuring Rodgers makes it near impossible to "move on" from Rodgers - it's incomprehensible that anybody who loves the Packers would actually have a problem with that.

It's more about keeping some flexibility. Injuries happen and old age catches up with everyone eventually. You restructure someone you've used that option up for the rest of the contract for the most part. Do that with multiple big money players at the same time and your future flexibility takes a hit.