Official 2021 NFL Draft Thread

[run pMc]

And I would have no problem if the right guy fell to us at 32 and we take one. Or if we take one in the 2nd. But I don't want to take a 2nd round talent in the 1st when a top 15 talent fell to us at 32. I want the best player we can get. If we need a WR sign one of the many who will be FA this season. I have pimped for Cory Davis, but also in the market will be Allen Robinson, Will Fuller, Curtis Samuel, JuJu Smith, Nelson Aguilar, Chris Godwin, and Kenny Golladay. Now there is a nice mix of alphas and #2s. Can you imagine Godwin lining up across from Devante! But even if we land ZERO WR yet again, the guys we got aren't bad because they are lead by Adams which single handedly makes a WR room top half of the league.

Agree with this take: I want the best player they can get.
Also, I was stunned they didn't draft a WR and would be doubly so this year. A few things to consider though: they signed Begelton and Funchess instead, and they went after E.Sanders and inquired mid-season about a few others (incl. W.Fuller) so you know they see it as an area to improve. I think they will be active in searching for more WR talent this offseason. There are just too many signs of it needing to happen.
Reaching for any player is not ideal from a value perspective, but if you reach for someone who turns into an All-Pro it might not matter. It's better if you draft them without reaching though.

[GB-Brandon]

Yeah, those are areas I think they need to build future depth.

As for Marquez Stevenson, love his YAC and that he goes 0-60 in a hiccup. Could be a monster out of the slot and on shallow crossers, or as an alternative to MVS on deep routes. Definitely not a natural hands catcher and his route running is very raw but you could replace Ervin or Malik Taylor with him. At 6'0" 190 he's a little small for a Gute WR, and he has a bit of an injury history. Feels like an early Day 3 pick to me, but combine and other events could change that. Looks like he was born to play (and thrive) for KC, or get drafted (and ruined) by CHI.

Your not getting Stevenson on day 3.(I do have a bucket list of day 3 options) Stevenson is easily a top 10 receiver prospect coming out and some have him as high as top 5. He is an “A+“ athlete so his combine will propel his draft stock. It’s gonna take a trade up in the 2nd or a trade back out of 1st to land him. Too many teams covet what he brings to the table with his only knock being size and playing in the American Athletic. To me Stevenson is kinda the WR version of Jaire Alexander. A bit undersized but just too much talent to pass up. He is just such a natural talent with the ball in his hands. As far as being fluid he gets a “10”. He is Smooth as Silk. This is the type of guy Ted Thompson gobbles up!!! A huge “Value Pick” in the 2nd round!!! He is literally the “Missing Piece” in this offense.

Lots to work with on Stevenson.

[GB-Brandon]

And I would have no problem if the right guy fell to us at 32 and we take one. Or if we take one in the 2nd. But I don't want to take a 2nd round talent in the 1st when a top 15 talent fell to us at 32. I want the best player we can get. If we need a WR sign one of the many who will be FA this season. I have pimped for Cory Davis, but also in the market will be Allen Robinson, Will Fuller, Curtis Samuel, JuJu Smith, Nelson Aguilar, Chris Godwin, and Kenny Golladay. Now there is a nice mix of alphas and #2s. Can you imagine Godwin lining up across from Devante! But even if we land ZERO WR yet again, the guys we got aren't bad because they are lead by Adams which single handedly makes a WR room top half of the league.

And if they make a big FA move we can re-address. I’m not holding my breath as Gute seems to be the type that is in on “Every Move” but the offers made are just Smoke with no clear chance of actually getting or landing a real deal.

[QBME]

OK, let’s get this straight...the NFL Draft is rigged!!

[run pMc]

Stevenson is easily a top 10 receiver prospect coming out and some have him as high as top 5.

You might be the only one. CBS Sports, Draft Network, PFF, and a few others don't have him top 10. CBS Sports didn't even have him in their top 150.
I'm not saying the guy is no good, but I think he's probably a reach in the first two rounds. I could see someone taking him in R4 or R5 for sure (i.e., Day 3).
Chase, Smith, Waddle, Bateman, Marshall, St.Brown, Olave, Rondale Moore, Tylan Wallace, Sage Surratt, Elijah Moore all rated better at this point. Lotta time between now and April.

I do like he gets YAC and accelerates in a blink to top speed -- he's got traits you can work with. He's a project and I think you can get those in Day 3, especially if there's the WR depth that's being claimed.

[GB-Brandon]

You might be the only one. CBS Sports, Draft Network, PFF, and a few others don't have him top 10. CBS Sports didn't even have him in their top 150.
I'm not saying the guy is no good, but I think he's probably a reach in the first two rounds. I could see someone taking him in R4 or R5 for sure (i.e., Day 3).
Chase, Smith, Waddle, Bateman, Marshall, St.Brown, Olave, Rondale Moore, Tylan Wallace, Sage Surratt, Elijah Moore all rated better at this point. Lotta time between now and April.

I do like he gets YAC and accelerates in a blink to top speed -- he's got traits you can work with. He's a project and I think you can get those in Day 3, especially if there's the WR depth that's being claimed.

CBS I think is a joke early on. Walter has him No.6 overall. It’s really weird right now cause of covid etc. He will be top 10 if not higher after combine etc etc and all those things shake out. “triple A+ Athlete”. You can take that to the bank!!

He has some things you simply can’t teach. The fluid movement and open hips along with elite speed!!

https://walterfootball.com/draft2021WR.php

[GB-Brandon]

You might be the only one. CBS Sports, Draft Network, PFF, and a few others don't have him top 10. CBS Sports didn't even have him in their top 150.
I'm not saying the guy is no good, but I think he's probably a reach in the first two rounds. I could see someone taking him in R4 or R5 for sure (i.e., Day 3).
Chase, Smith, Waddle, Bateman, Marshall, St.Brown, Olave, Rondale Moore, Tylan Wallace, Sage Surratt, Elijah Moore all rated better at this point. Lotta time between now and April.

I do like he gets YAC and accelerates in a blink to top speed -- he's got traits you can work with. He's a project and I think you can get those in Day 3, especially if there's the WR depth that's being claimed.

He is everything you wanted MVS to be!!!!!!

[Joemailman]

A bit off topic, but report that Matt Stafford wants to be traded. Doesn't want to start over with a new coach. Bears? Colts? Saints?
Lions would have 19M dead money and gain 14M salary cap room. Team that trades for him would pay him 20M.

[texaspackerbacker]

Explain please. I thought dead money hurt cap room, not give a gain.

[Joemailman]

Explain please. I thought dead money hurt cap room, not give a gain.

His cap hit in 2021 would be 33M. If they trade him, his cap hit will be 19M.

[call_me_ishmael]

Good for Matt Stafford, he is too good of a player for Detroit and has clearly put in the effort, played injured, etc. Hope he ends up at a quality org. Hopefully not SF because they would be way too dangerous.

[Jaire]

It's San Fran.

That's by far the best place for him. It's a no brainer. Rumor is they are working a 3 way deal with NE already.

[GB-Brandon]

Let’s please not ruin this thread with this.

Thank You!!

[Jaire]

You can’t just do BPA and draft 10 Corners for example. Especially when your a team on the last year or two competing for a title. You have to finish the puzzle. You also have to factor in Future contracts and who your going to sign and who you aren’t etc.

That's not how BPA works. Usually there are a number of players on the same tier. You take one of your guys. You also move up and down to take your receiver (like Jordy and Jennings).

Interesting tidbit Brandt revealed: TT had targeted Jennings for weeks; the whole FO was sworn to secrecy and knew 3 weeks ahead of the draft. Some secrecy: doesn't even reveal it til after TT passes away. That's a tight lipped FO. Gute's is a little less.

Anyways, I guarantee that they know who they want at WR in round one, round 2, and round 3.

They also have plans for OT.

Those are the 2 positions I am sure of just because of need and depth in this draft. We needed them last year. We need them still this year (and there are just fewer holes now). They should be able to get some of "their" guys at both positions and I think they have an extra 4 &5 this year.

The thing about BPA is it only works if you fill holes in FA (like Gute does and TT didn't). Then you aren't FORCED to reach at a position of need which happened waaaaay to often with previous regime.

[GB-Brandon]

That's not how BPA works. Usually there are a number of players on the same tier. You take one of your guys. You also move up and down to take your receiver (like Jordy and Jennings).

Interesting tidbit Brandt revealed: TT had targeted Jennings for weeks; the whole FO was sworn to secrecy and knew 3 weeks ahead of the draft. Some secrecy: doesn't even reveal it til after TT passes away. That's a tight lipped FO. Gute's is a little less.

Anyways, I guarantee that they know who they want at WR in round one, round 2, and round 3.

They also have plans for OT.

Those are the 2 positions I am sure of just because of need and depth in this draft. We needed them last year. We need them still this year (and there are just fewer holes now). They should be able to get some of "their" guys at both positions and I think they have an extra 4 &5 this year.

The thing about BPA is it only works if you fill holes in FA (like Gute does and TT didn't). Then you aren't FORCED to reach at a position of need which happened waaaaay to often with previous regime.

I would agree with this.