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  • #46
    With the Packers probably having extra comp picks in the 4th, 5th and 6th rounds, it seems like the perfect year for the Packers to use a mid round pick to draft Jones' replacement. Don't forget, Jones was a 5th round pick.

    Maybe someone like Trey Sermon of Ohio St.

    Ohio State running back Trey Sermon is one of the hottest running back prospects in football on the heels of an offensive explosion amid the Ohio State Buckeyes’ run to the National Championship game. Sermon wrangled the primary ball-carrier duties after splitting the load for much of the season with Master Teague III and has made the most of his opportunities; shredding two high-profile defenses in high-profile games. Sermon’s skill set and production will be the latest argument against drafting running backs high in the draft—Sermon is expected to be a mid-round prospect thanks to some inefficiencies and a lack of production on third downs; but on a team that runs inside and split zone with success, Sermon can be super productive (just as he was in such concepts for the Buckeyes down the stretch). Sermon has the physicality, contact balance, ball security, and toughness to be an early-down back and shoulder the majority of the load for an NFL team—he’ll be an economic option for zone-based teams looking to boost their ground game and add some toughness into the mix. As an added bonus, between his tenure at Oklahoma and his one season at Ohio State, Sermon has not logged 200-plus carries in a single season; there’s reason to believe that there should be plenty of life left in his legs for a significant long-term return on investment.

    Ideal Role: Early-down starting running back in communal stable.

    Scheme Fit: Split/inside zone heavy rushing attack.
    I can't run no more
    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
    A thundercloud
    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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    • #47
      Easy, Joe. That post there, it sounds like you're . . . Sermonizing.
      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

      KYPack

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Fritz View Post
        Easy, Joe. That post there, it sounds like you're . . . Sermonizing.
        Hard to come up with a good Sermon these days.
        I can't run no more
        With that lawless crowd
        While the killers in high places
        Say their prayers out loud
        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
        A thundercloud
        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
          You are just using this as an example. Not advocating for this contract right? Because 20 mill aav for a rb is insane.
          True, it's a little bit high, although it isn't that far off. Even at that amount, it wouldn't hurt the cap, and the cap would bounce back by the time it did. Jones is only 26, and barring a freak injury, he should still be about as good in 5 years.

          And yes, you can sign 'em all.
          What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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          • #50
            You can cook the cap a year or two but eventually you have to bite the bullet. Jones is looking for GUARANTEED money, not just a high dollar contract with voided years at the end so that Rosenhaus can say he negotiated a big contract. I'd absolutely love to keep Jones but can't blame either party for moving on.
            Go PACK

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            • #51
              I’m really not sure Sermon is the best option moving forward but that of course can be discussed later.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                I’m really not sure Sermon is the best option moving forward but that of course can be discussed later.
                You truly have no clue and your guess is as good as any of ours.
                Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                  Example: $100 million for 5 years - $35m bonus, salary of $2m, 13m, 15m, 17m, 19m in years 2-5. That would be $9 million against the cap the first year and 20, 22, 24, and 26 in years 2-5. This is not an example of what smuggler was talking about with the Eagles. It's something that ought to be acceptable to the player, and it certainly works for the team, given the unique cap situation.
                  Tex, you are a good Packer fan. But your example here is insane. You know how to amortize the signing bonus, that's fine. No team is going to offer a running back a 100 million package with a 35 million guaranteed.. We will be over the cap by a significant amount when the 21 cap goes into effect. We will have to create cap space, not make a bigger deficit. Jones will, unfortunately, be gone.


                  You can't cook the cap, not that you hypothesis is an example of that. Tank thinks you can cook the cap, but he is a fool. You have to manage the cap. We will get bit in the butt by the cap, but Goot and Ball will have a plan to get us thru this.

                  In that process, the Pack will lose some excellent football players.


                  That's reality

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                    True, it's a little bit high, although it isn't that far off. Even at that amount, it wouldn't hurt the cap, and the cap would bounce back by the time it did. Jones is only 26, and barring a freak injury, he should still be about as good in 5 years.

                    And yes, you can sign 'em all.
                    You can't know that. You don't know what each player is asking.

                    Even if they were able to do so, it means less money for free agents. If you tie up a lot of money in a player, you lose out on other opportunities.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                      You truly have no clue and your guess is as good as any of ours.
                      Actually, I’m pretty certain!!! There are “Better Options” all the way around!!

                      Maybe you should catch up! I can’t slow down for you.

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                      • #56
                        Were at Risk of even losing Williams too. His market value is higher then what some estimate on here. We’ll see on that.

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                        • #57
                          You can sign 'em all. For a while. Saints did that. But now they're going to have to dismantle that team.
                          I can't run no more
                          With that lawless crowd
                          While the killers in high places
                          Say their prayers out loud
                          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                          A thundercloud
                          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                          • #58
                            Jones shouldn’t even be a discussion anymore and a “Maybe” on Williams at around 8 per.

                            That’s the real deal.

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                            • #59
                              Ted Thompson broke the bank drafting these kids in his last draft.

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                              • #60
                                They said AJ was too small and did it at against lesser competition!!

                                They said Jamal wasn’t athletic and fast enough and didn’t have good vision!!

                                LOL!!

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