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  • #31
    Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
    Ricky Wagner I think, and he sucked
    Yeah, that was him. #71

    Thanks b

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    • #32
      While we all would’ve preferred to play in the SB. Do we really think we wouldve beat the chiefs?
      The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
      Vince Lombardi

      "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by hoosier View Post
        Yes. And what's worse is, they seem to bring their B or C game every time at this point in the season. Four out of seven years they've made it to the CCG, and each time they poop the bed instead of doing what got them there. 2016 they were outclassed, but 2014 and this year they did not lose to the better team. And who is the common denominator for those four fails?
        Green Bay wasn’t the better team and all their flaws got exposed today just like their flaws got exposed last year against the Niners.

        From coaching to personnel we couldn’t get it done when we had too.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Fosco33 View Post
          While we all would’ve preferred to play in the SB. Do we really think we wouldve beat the chiefs?
          Not the way the Chiefs are playing today.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by red View Post
            Yeah, that was him. #71

            Thanks b
            We paid his six mil/year, which is cheap for an OT

            He was the cheap option for Bulaga
            TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Fosco33 View Post
              While we all would’ve preferred to play in the SB. Do we really think we wouldve beat the chiefs?
              Maybe with a “Perfect Game” but we just don’t have the firepower and nobody wants to admit it. I hope Gute finally has and does some serious shit cause it’s our only hope!!!

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              • #37
                Another wasted season. Everything lined up.

                Next year we lose players and may not get lucky on injuries 3 years in a row.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by th87 View Post
                  Another wasted season. Everything lined up.

                  Next year we lose players and may not get lucky on injuries 3 years in a row.
                  In a sense it was a wasted season when Gute didn’t make a full commitment to the roster and they allowed incompetence on the coaching staff. Even MVP QB PLAY couldn’t overcome it.

                  So yes it was a MASSIVE WASTE and for years down the road Packer fans will look back when the misery of losing season after losing season comes it will probably hurt that much more.

                  These have certainly been taken for granite!!!

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                  • #39
                    Mr “All Gas & No Break”

                    Turned into

                    Mr “Clam up & Hide”

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                    • #40
                      The mystique of lambeau in the cold is gone forever, we haven't been a cold weather team in a long time

                      As much as I hate to say it, it might be time to put some kind of roof on the place, or make sure we don't play any playoff games at home
                      Last edited by red; 01-24-2021, 09:47 PM.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                        A TON
                        Really though? He nearly had two key turnovers. I didn’t realize he was hurt, I thought he was benched.

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                        • #42
                          There are plenty of regrets in this game (King, officiating, Davante drop, a bad throw here and there, kicking the FG at the end), but an underrated storyline to the loss is completely abandoning the run in the 4th quarter. We did have some success in the game (over 4 yards/carry--which was better than TB). I don't understand why we didn't pound Dillon more after Jones went out.
                          "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                          • #43
                            Games are won in the trenches. That's what I said it would come down to. And it did. They rattled AR and MLF and took them off their game. This was a BAD match up.

                            Down a score in the 4th Qtr and with two TOs, they called just one run play. MLF did not hanldle that well at all. His worst quarter this year. They needed to slow the pass rush AND get some traction. The first half was on Pettine. The second half was on MLF.

                            All said and done, the Bucs were the only team to manhandle this line all year. And they were down two starting safeties.

                            The most glaring problem this as last year was coaching. Pettine needs to go. You rarely win the SB without great coaching. They don't have an all star team. They should have replaced him last year. Great coaches simply do not have the complete debacles we saw the last two championship games.

                            Biggest need last and this year was OT. They've needed to get Bulaga's replacement last year. And I had hoped they got Bakh's replacement too. I was worried he would have a knee injury. And he did. He's not the body type to be able to go long in his 30s. Very few do. They can win in regular season. They can't beat tough Dlines. That's where championships are won. The Bucs handled our pressure. Pettine couldn't dial anything up. So basically they handled our pressure. We couldn't handle theirs. That was game.

                            Packers have a real mess now imo. But the best and quickest fix is a better DC. That squad can do better. The talent and investment is on that side of the ball. Gotta do better there. And draft OT, OT (it's a very deep draft).
                            Last edited by Jaire; 01-25-2021, 02:31 AM.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Jaire View Post
                              Games are won in the trenches. That's what I said it would come down to. And it did. They rattled AR and MLF and took them off their game. This was a BAD match up.

                              Down a score in the 4th Qtr and with two TOs, they called just one run play. MLF did not hanldle that well at all. His worst quarter this year. They needed to slow the pass rush AND get some traction. The first half was on Pettine. The second half was on MLF.

                              All said and done, the Bucs were the only team to manhandle this line all year. And they were down two starting safeties.

                              The most glaring problem this as last year was coaching. Pettine needs to go. You rarely win the SB without great coaching. They don't have an all star team. They should have replaced him last year. Great coaches simply do not have the complete debacles we saw the last two championship games.

                              Biggest need last and this year was OT. They've needed to get Bulaga's replacement last year. And I had hoped they got Bakh's replacement too. I was worried he would have a knee injury. And he did. He's not the body type to be able to go long in his 30s. Very few do. They can win in regular season. They can't beat tough Dlines. That's where championships are won. The Bucs handled our pressure. Pettine couldn't dial anything up. So basically they handled our pressure. We couldn't handle theirs. That was game.

                              Packers have a real mess now imo. But the best and quickest fix is a better DC. That squad can do better. The talent and investment is on that side of the ball. Gotta do better there. And draft OT, OT (it's a very deep draft).
                              Agreed. Ironically, the Packers were able to come back from their big deficit because the TB scores happened so fast. Their defense never got a chance to rest when they were summoned back out because of quick TDs, return TDs, and the turnovers.

                              This was a prime opportunity to land body blows with Dillon and methodically go down the field. It would've paid off handsomely later in the game too. Instead we reverted to old hero ball.

                              As much as we all love Rodgers, there is something off about his situational awareness. He'll often do a good job of cutting into a deficit, but when it comes time to take the lead, he often presses and can't get it done.

                              The defense kind of sucked in both halves. We were very fortunate that passes were clanging off of the Bucs' hands, and that Brady threw some really errant ones.

                              Pettine 1000% should've been gone last winter after the Raheem Mostert debacle. You can't allow something like that and still be employed. Organizational mismanagement of the highest order, and by keeping him around, we essentially wasted another Rodgers year. It's borderline criminal to not mitigate every weakness this team has while Rodgers is here, and to go into another year with this festering mess was disastrous.

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                              • #45
                                Agreed except maybe on Rodger's performance.

                                That was the worst line performance (pass pro) this year. MLF has to take control and run the ball. They had success running. MLF admitted he messed up.



                                But the real screw up was Pettine whom MLF wanted out. Can't waste a year praying he will figure it out. He's not a rook. If Boles were our DC, we win.

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