More Banjo - Packers vs Bucs

[GB-Brandon]

Looking back at the game. They couldn't run inside with Vea there. All there sacks were also with Vea in.

Vita Vea was MVP of the game. Lucky the Packers were even in it tbh, and came close to winning. The Bucs front 7 is just deadly.

Yeah, people downplayed “Vea” when I posted he would be returning. He is a “90.1” graded interior defender! Him with Suh and Gholston with their LB’s made it almost impossible to just line up and run the ball. Then when you consider us being behind on the scoreboard the only way we had a chance was to throw the ball and have our guys beat their “Press Coverage” and we couldn’t consistently enough.

This is the type of game where you needed a DK Metcalf/AjBrown type who could of ran through their little holds and press or a Tyreek Hill/Mercole Hardman type that are so fast and slippery that they wouldn’t of been able to get their hands on them!

That was difference on that side of the ball!

[GB-Brandon]

This Tampa team is coming back and if The Packers are able to work things out with Rodgers they will certainly have to add the pieces to beat Tampa next year!!

That doesn’t mean drafting a Corner in the first round!!

[Sparkey]

This Tampa team is coming back and if The Packers are able to work things out with Rodgers they will certainly have to add the pieces to beat Tampa next year!!

That doesn’t mean drafting a Corner in the first round!!

Except that if they had a better corner than King, they would have more than likely won the game.

[GB-Brandon]

Except that if they had a better corner than King, they would have more than likely won the game.

In this game if we’re being honest we can point too a lot of things. I’m not against corner help. King needs to go and from everything I gather Jackson isn’t the guy either. In fact if you have read some of my posts in other threads I am for bringing in an ascending at worst case stop gap type corner in Free Agency. I’ve even picked one out that I’ve been pretty impressed with. He would be an upgrade over King immediately and probably wouldn’t break the bank too much. He is right in that “age zone” you like to see. I don’t think if the plan is to move forward with Rodgers that we have time to develop a corner on the fly next year.

We’re in good position because we have the No.1 guy in Alexander so getting the other guy to hold down the boundary isn’t as expensive. It would be $ well spent! What Gute does we will see. I’m pretty certain King won’t be back. I wouldn’t be opposed to drafting some reserve help later in the draft or someone that can improve our position in the slot on day 2 but i think going ALL OUT on corner day 1 is a huge mistake.

I really think we would be better off getting a disrupter upfront on the defense in a very weak D-Line Draft assuming Gute does “Other Things.”

[Upnorth]

Except that if they had a better corner than King, they would have more than likely won the game.

And if they used dillion more. He was moving the ball consistently. Shortest run was 1 yrs. After that his shortest was 4 yards. No big gains but consistent churn over 6 carries. We feed him and we draw in their d then things open up. Stupid game plan.

[GB-Brandon]

I want a BIG BULLY that can push the pocket on Tom Brady’s Stupid Face!!!!

[GB-Brandon]

This game was simple. A player short here and a bad coaching move there and it all added up to a Bad Loss!!!

[RashanGary]

I really think we would be better off getting a disrupter upfront on the defense in a very weak D-Line Draft assuming Gute does “Other Things.”

Doesn’t having a weak DL draft mean it’s weak in the sense of not being a lot of good players. I understand the idea of take the one that’s there but I’m pretty sure a lot of people would like to take the one that’s there, making it a low probability occurrence than we get the one guy who’s available.

More likely, the deeper positions like ILB and WR will have a quality player available when we pick. You can only pick who you pick, not who everyone else picks so cherry picking one player and crossing ones fingers seems to be a good quick way to disappoint yourself.

[GB-Brandon]

Doesn’t having a weak DL draft mean it’s weak in the sense of not being a lot of good players. I understand the idea of take the one that’s there but I’m pretty sure a lot of people would like to take the one that’s there, making it a low probability occurrence than we get the one guy who’s available.

More likely, the deeper positions like ILB and WR will have a quality player available when we pick. You can only pick who you pick, not who everyone else picks so cherry picking one player and crossing ones fingers seems to be a good quick way to disappoint yourself.

It’s weak in terms of depth. That’s doesn’t mean there are not some good ones. My point being waiting around until day 2 or day 3 probably won’t get the job done when trying to address such a NEED!!

Until this D-Line thing is fixed and upgraded I don’t care what “Fancy Corner” the Packers draft or decide to bring in!!

[Upnorth]

Doesn’t having a weak DL draft mean it’s weak in the sense of not being a lot of good players. I understand the idea of take the one that’s there but I’m pretty sure a lot of people would like to take the one that’s there, making it a low probability occurrence than we get the one guy who’s available.

More likely, the deeper positions like ILB and WR will have a quality player available when we pick. You can only pick who you pick, not who everyone else picks so cherry picking one player and crossing ones fingers seems to be a good quick way to disappoint yourself.

What do the CB look like in this draft? Thats the beauty with drafting high quality corners, they are much less reliant on the talent around them. I admit mid range corners need help from the pass rush but we need someone who has to cover the #2 as jaire can be an island. It think that is way easier to draft at #30 that a rookie do that will improve the line this year at #30

[MadtownPacker]

This game was simple. A player short here and a bad coaching move there and it all added up to a Bad Loss!!!

How about Rodgers? I haven’t seen you get off his nuts at all to place some very deserved blame on him.

[Upnorth]

How about Rodgers? I haven’t seen you get off his nuts at all to place some very deserved blame on him.

Rodgers played ok. A little bit below the MVP standard yes but def not a reason we lost. Couple accuracy issues and one bad non run.

That non run does piss me off though. He gets a minimum 5 yards there easy so its now 4th and 3 to go.

[Joemailman]

Loved this exchange between a disgruntled fan and Mike Spofford in the Insiders Inbox column at Packers.com.

https://www.packers.com/news/inbox-i...-human-aspects

Jesus from Mesa, AZ

Mike, you don't seem to understand. Of course the team balances short- and long-term goals, and must continue to do so. But going for it means overweighting the short-term goal at the expense of the long-term goal. Drafting a first-round QB and the backup to the backup RB with your first two drafts are not "going for it." Quit being a company-line apologist, think for yourself, and the maybe you'll get clued into what folks are saying.

I am clued into what folks are saying, I'm not apologizing for anyone, and I do think for myself. I don't agree with nor defend every decision made here, but I can understand and explain the rationale when asked. There's a difference. By and large, I think "going for it" is a fool's errand because if it doesn't pay off you end up with even fewer chances in a highly random and unpredictable game. That was my point. In the end, the Packers had everything they needed to get to the Super Bowl this year, having earned the No. 1 seed, lone bye, and home field. It came down to one contest, and they blew it. Why? Because the play caller and/or MVP QB abandoned the run at multiple pivotal moments, the All-Pro wide receiver dropped a TD pass, the Pro Bowl running back fumbled, the No. 2 corner who's been a solid cover man when healthy played the worst game of his career, the normally productive edge rushers couldn't get to the QB, the future HOF left tackle's absence caught up with them, the head coach made a questionable decision at crunch time, and the officials changed the tenor of their oversight with the game on the line. Anyone who can explain to me how the first two draft picks last April, or other front-office moves, were going to change any of that, I'll hang up and listen. You sent another note saying I need to join "reality" because my answers are "insulting to the collective intelligence" of the "go for it" folks like you. I implore you to get off your philosophical hobby horse and instead look at the facts and reasons for the loss in a game the Packers had to win even if they had gone 16-0. I've outlined them. The failures had nothing to do with the franchise's off-the-field approach to trying to win. That's the actual reality.

[Upnorth]

Joe, that is a beautiful encapsulation of the game and what happened. Thank you for sharing it!

Plus that back up to the backup rb likely would have changed the games outcome if he was used.

If love isn't a bust the 2020 draft is going to go down as pivotal. If love is a bust then deguara needs to step up to still make it a good draft. Heck runyon and dillion alone make it a c+ to b- draft draft. Everything else is gravy

[George Cumby]

Loved this exchange between a disgruntled fan and Mike Spofford in the Insiders Inbox column at Packers.com.

https://www.packers.com/news/inbox-i...-human-aspects

So either Spofford reads Packerrats, one of you guys IS Spofford, or maybe, just maybe, the Packerrats HiveMind knows its business.