Official fire Maurice Drayton

[Joemailman]

I'm pretty sure he will fire him. He was asked in his PC Monday if he would be keeping Drayton:

“We’ve got to look at everything,” LaFleur said during his season-ending Zoom call. “We’ve got to look at everything and, if we feel like we can improve in certain areas, then we’ll make tough decisions.

Given that he certainly has to feel ST can be improved (How could he not?), I think he'll make the decision to fire Drayton. In my opinion, the only way he wouldn't would be if he decides Packers haven't made special teams a priority in terms of the quality of players made available to ST.

[Bretsky]

IMO Matty can stop being a pussy and get this done. It's obvious and if it doesn't happen Matty will lose mass respect of nearly everybody

[run pMc]

Desmond Howard must’ve cursed the Packers after they cut him midway through his second stint with the team.

Why the fuck did they cut Howard? I seem to recall the guy returning a kick for 6 with the Kittens after the termination.

Could also be the curse of Craig Hentrich, BJ Sander, JK Scott, or Hunter Bradley. I bet Scott and Hunter got a hoot out of Saturday's game.

[Sparkey]

True, but I guess you didn't see what I said in some other thread. LaFleur, as he so often does, throttled down on Rodgers and the passing game, especially downfield passing, and first and foremost, as LaFleur even said in his video conference, you can't blame the QB when the D is in his lap all day because the O Line can't handle the pass rush. Rodgers of course made some mistakes and maybe didn't show much patience at times, but the special teams lost the game along with chronic poor O Line play and the coach channeling McCarthy, seemingly playing not to lose.

My goodness, you're a tool. By all means believe that Lafluer is the one that wants his QB to run MM's stagnant, no pre snap motion, garbage.

The one thing that Favre was never afraid to do was take chances.

Rodgers seems so risk averse that he stalls offensive drives. All year, the offense was on and off. If Rodgers gets all the credit when they win, we doesn't he have to take the blame when they lose?

[Bretsky]

I'm going to sounds like a DEAD record here BUT we need to get things cleaned up BEFORE the new coaches are hired with the new coaching staffs.

We have some capable ST Coordinators just fired and job hunting.

AND..............FOR F'CKS SAKE< DO NOT HIRE HIS ASSISTANT> That shit has failed over and over and over for GB and our it's time to stop SHITTING ON OURSELVES with the ST HIRE


This methology for hiring ST assistants, and hiring Drayton the assistant, has turned into the motherload of all F'ck UPS.

[Bretsky]

True, but I guess you didn't see what I said in some other thread. LaFleur, as he so often does, throttled down on Rodgers and the passing game, especially downfield passing, and first and foremost, as LaFleur even said in his video conference, you can't blame the QB when the D is in his lap all day because the O Line can't handle the pass rush. Rodgers of course made some mistakes and maybe didn't show much patience at times, but the special teams lost the game along with chronic poor O Line play and the coach channeling McCarthy, seemingly playing not to lose.

I really enjoy you as a poster Tex and part of that is probably because we have some good UW Badger Chatter.

But you have some severe blurred vision when it comes to Rodgers. We was our MVP; f'cking amazing. But come playoff time he has some severe issues to overcome in order to become Tom Brady. One is looking past Adams. Another is absolutely never taking a chance because he doesn't trust his WR's. Now one "MIGHT" blame Gutebag partsly for this. But he used to take chances, and he took chances the year we won the Super Bowl. Those back shoulder passses to Jordy were works of art. The volume of those are pretty much gone. And the go up and win the battle passes to Multiple receivers are gone as well. It's like he has narrow vision to Adams and does't move his head side to side. Now I ABSOLUTELY KNOW doing more of this will lead to a few more INT"s. But it's also going to lead to a LOT more TD's. Yes, he has an outrageous record for Toutchdowns to INT's and that is a "GOOD", but not GREAT as some think. It comes at the expense of more touchdowns IMO.

And Rodgers had a TON of TIME on hit last throw; he just fucked up. Call is what it is; a horrible decision. He makes mistakes. Sad to say, Jimmy G was probably the best QB Sunday.

FTR, I want to keep Rodgers, but he needs to be coachable and he needs to change the way he plays a bit IMO.

[texaspackerbacker]

I appreciate you too, Bretsky. My praise for Rodgers beyond the obvious is mainly in reaction to the stupid and irrational remarks of some in here and outside of this forum knocking him. There is no question whatsoever that he is the best QB right now, and very little that he really is the GOAT. Does he make mistakes? Sure, including probably a few in that game. I'm listening to his hour or so on Mcafee right now. Make no mistake about it, if Rodgers voluntarily left the Packers, I'd drop him like a hot rock - team loyalty is everything. I don't much give a shit about any individual player, even him, except what they do for the team as well as the indisputable facts about how good he has been and still is.

I see it as idiocy the idea that Rodgers has a rotten attitude toward the team or whatever.

[Thirteen Below]

True, but I guess you didn't see what I said in some other thread. LaFleur, as he so often does, throttled down on Rodgers and the passing game, especially downfield passing, and first and foremost, as LaFleur even said in his video conference, you can't blame the QB when the D is in his lap all day because the O Line can't handle the pass rush..

First of all, do you not realize you just said two completely contradictory things? You claim LaFleur is the one who kept Rodgers from going downfield all night long, then you admit LaFleur was correct when he said that Rodgers couldn't go downfield because the Niners D line was swarming all over him before he could get set to throw. Which one is it? Because it can't be both.

Second, Rodgers showed no hesitation in going downfield whenever Adams was the WR downfield - even if Adams was double covered, like he was on that last play. He went deep downfield to a doubled-up Adams, and ignored the wide open receiver who was only 15 yards downfield, because that wasn't deep enough.

Is that what you would have liked to have seen more of?

[texaspackerbacker]

hahahaha That sort of thing worked most of the season, just not Saturday night.

Obviously, LaFleur calls the plays which includes personnel and formation, etc. Rodgers can change things at the line or pick and choose receivers when the play starts. I don't think Rodgers overruled LaFleur's play calls nearly as much as some seem to think, but none of us know that for sure. Obviously, I'm on record as saying I don't like running too much on first down, and I just hate running it into the line on both first and second. I also have said, I have a very high opinion of LaFleur in general. When we had the vacancy, I said I wanted a cerebral coach, not some dumbass rah rah motivational guy. But sometimes, he does things I don't care for.

[Thirteen Below]

hahahaha That sort of thing worked most of the season, just not Saturday night.

Obviously, LaFleur calls the plays which includes personnel and formation, etc. Rodgers can change things at the line or pick and choose receivers when the play starts. I don't think Rodgers overruled LaFleur's play calls nearly as much as some seem to think, but none of us know that for sure.

Jeez, man, I sure hope he did, because otherwise MLF is an imbecile. If that really was the game plan he spent two weeks working on night and day (as he bragged about), then we need Mike McCarthy back.

[Bretsky]

SEAN PAYTON stepping down


WHO IS THEIR SPECIAL TEAMS COACH ?????????????????????/

[Bretsky]

The Packers haven’t placed in the top 10 in Gosselin’s rankings since finishing tied for 7th under Mike Stock in 2007. The highest they’ve ranked since then is 12th under Shawn Slocum in 2011. Over the last four years – one under Drayton, two under Shawn Mennenga and one under Ron Zook – they’ve ranked 32nd, 29th, 26th and 32nd.

The organization had a chance to hire one of the best special teams coaches in the NFL – Darren Rizzi – in 2019, but it offered him less than what he said he needed to take the Packers job, and he decided they weren’t serious. He signed a four-year deal with New Orleans for the $1.5 million per year he was seeking.

[Joemailman]

SEAN PAYTON stepping down


WHO IS THEIR SPECIAL TEAMS COACH ?????????????????????/

Your buddy. They finished 5th in Gosselin's ratings this year. Of course, it appears Rizzi has 1 year left on his contract with New Orleans.

[RashanGary]

Maybe hire Joe Judge and pay him big bucks. We really do need to get a quality special teams coach and then commit more resources to special teams.

OL and secondary look to be improved next year. Special Teams could be another area of big improvement if they invest in it.

[RashanGary]

Could hire the Ravens top assistant too. They always have good special teams.