Official Free Agency/Offseason/Non-Draft Thread

[Joemailman]

Stafford to Rams

Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
· 12m
Full terms of the deal: It’s Matthew Stafford to the #Rams for 2 1st rounders and a 3rd rounder, along with Jared Goff.

[Sparkey]

With the haul Detroit just received for Stafford, what do the Texans get for Watson?

[Joemailman]

Man, those Texans. They finished 4-12. They don't have a 1st round pick. Their starting QB doesn't want to play for them. They're 18 million over the cap. Other than that, everything's great.

[Joemailman]

This now puts a lot of pressure on the 49ers. They now have the worst QB situation in their division. That is not a situation you want to be in. Just ask the Bears.

[call_me_ishmael]

Wow, I'm surprised he went to the Rams. I thought Goff was decent? I don't really watch much these days so perhaps something changed. Tough deal to sign a #1 pick to the contract then have to bail after, what, 5 years total?

[texaspackerbacker]

I'd say Detroit cleaned up in this deal. Goff ain't horrible; He's what? 6 or 7 years younger than Stafford? Stafford has a bit of a tendency to get careless and throw picks - he's no Aaron Rodgers, not that anybody is. All of that plus 2 firsts and a 3rd. I'm sure the Lions will find a way to fuck it up over time, but in this trade, they did damn good.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

This now puts a lot of pressure on the 49ers. They now have the worst QB situation in their division. That is not a situation you want to be in. Just ask the Bears.

69ers will trade “Polo” back to NE for a 1st, and then will trade 3 1sts to the Tex-asses for Watson.

You all read it here 1st.

[Bretsky]

JJ Watt meeting with the Texans soon

Good chance be becomes available

[Joemailman]

I would be cautious about offering Watt huge money. He's about to turn 32. He played in all 16 games in 2020, but his numbers were way down from his prime. He's still pretty good (14 TFL's), but injuries may have robbed him of greatness.

[Upnorth]

I would be cautious about offering Watt huge money. He's about to turn 32. He played in all 16 games in 2020, but his numbers were way down from his prime. He's still pretty good (14 TFL's), but injuries may have robbed him of greatness.

Both his groin tears have reduced his capacity. He doesn't have the explosion he once had. I hope we steer clear of him unless we get an unbelievable deal

[George Cumby]

Both his groin tears have reduced his capacity. He doesn't have the explosion he once had. I hope we steer clear of him unless we get an unbelievable deal

This.

[George Cumby]

Stafford to Rams

Wow.

[run pMc]

I'd say Detroit cleaned up in this deal. Goff ain't horrible; He's what? 6 or 7 years younger than Stafford? Stafford has a bit of a tendency to get careless and throw picks - he's no Aaron Rodgers, not that anybody is. All of that plus 2 firsts and a 3rd. I'm sure the Lions will find a way to fuck it up over time, but in this trade, they did damn good.

Agree Lions win this trade in terms of value -- a starting QB and 2 R1 picks is pretty good. Now, Rams expect to be drafting low in R1, but still. It also depends on what DET does with those picks. If they screw them up, the Rams are big winners.
In the short term, Stafford makes the Rams a much better team. Early in his career I thought he was an inaccurate cannon, and sometimes he still will have a horrible game, but he's turned into a good QB -- better than Goff. If he takes to McVay's system with their defense they are a legit contender.

[Fritz]

Agree Lions win this trade in terms of value -- a starting QB and 2 R1 picks is pretty good. Now, Rams expect to be drafting low in R1, but still. It also depends on what DET does with those picks. If they screw them up, the Rams are big winners.
In the short term, Stafford makes the Rams a much better team. Early in his career I thought he was an inaccurate cannon, and sometimes he still will have a horrible game, but he's turned into a good QB -- better than Goff. If he takes to McVay's system with their defense they are a legit contender.

Agree with you and TPB on this.

I've been thinking about Linsley. I know he's a really good center, I love the guy, but there was a reason the Packers gave Lucas Patrick an extension last year and also drafted Stepaniak, who was apparently highly regarded prior to his injury. He did get to come back toward the end of the season and practice for a few weeks - I imagine they wanted a look-see to check whether he could take over for Linsley next season. I wonder what they saw.

But I think that Gute has been planning to not re-sign Linsley for some time now; he's got two players waiting in the wings.

[run pMc]

Agree with you and TPB on this.

I've been thinking about Linsley. I know he's a really good center, I love the guy, but there was a reason the Packers gave Lucas Patrick an extension last year and also drafted Stepaniak, who was apparently highly regarded prior to his injury. He did get to come back toward the end of the season and practice for a few weeks - I imagine they wanted a look-see to check whether he could take over for Linsley next season. I wonder what they saw.

But I think that Gute has been planning to not re-sign Linsley for some time now; he's got two players waiting in the wings.

Four, if you include Elgton Jenkins and Jake Hanson (4 year center from Oregon, drafted last year). I see some national publications saying GB needs a C or G, but I don't. They have guys in house already who can -- and have -- done the job before. Not saying they can do it as well as Linsley, but I bet they can do better than Evan Dietrich-Smith or Jeff Saturday.

And for the record, I think they should leave Elgton Jenkins at LG to form a solid left side with Bahk to protect Rodgers and help the run game. He seems to be excelling there, quit moving him around and let him be an All-Pro.

Hadn't thought of Stepaniak as a C, I think they could slide Patrick over to C and put Runyan or Stepaniak in at RG. From what I've heard, that's where he's good, and while he isn't very mobile he's super strong.