Official Fire Chuck Berry Thread

[RashanGary]

Seems the rumors of Mr. Berry's demise have been greatly exaggerated.

Yep. blaming the coach is the easiest fan outlet but it’s not always accurate. Players make all the difference.

[Joemailman]

It did take him too long to get this defense playing up to their ability. It will be a tough call for MLF on whether to keep Barry because Barry has shown he is capable of putting together good game plans when their backs are to the wall. But it shouldn't take so long.

[RashanGary]

It did take him too long to get this defense playing up to their ability. It will be a tough call for MLF on whether to keep Barry because Barry has shown he is capable of putting together good game plans when their backs are to the wall. But it shouldn't take so long.

How do we know it was Joe Barry putting together bad plans and not players having bad games?

[Joemailman]

How do we know it was Joe Barry putting together bad plans and not players having bad games?

So you should never fire a coach because the problem might just be that the players are playing bad?

[RashanGary]

So you should never fire a coach because the problem might just be that the players are playing bad?

It’s hard to sit on the outside and accurately blame the coach. Lafleur has a better feel than fans do. Savage got benched and now is playing better. Credit the coach there.

It’s a pet peeve of mine to always blame the coach.

But special teams got better with a new coach, punter, holder, special teams aces and returner, so maybe the coach contributed.

[call_me_ishmael]

It’s one game fellas.

[Joemailman]

It’s one game fellas.

It's now 4 straight games that they've given up 20 or less. The last 2 against pretty good offensive teams. I've been a critic of Barry, but he deserves some credit for the team's turnaround.

[texaspackerbacker]

I'm starting to warm up to Barry. I still wouldn't mind if they got rid of him, but I also wouldn't mind too much if he stayed. As I said in the other thread. Barry seems to have the loyalty of the players, but he also has to show some smarts in his scheming. Today he did - Romo did a good job of explaining why they did better. As Bretsky said, it's increasingly doubtful they get rid of him.

[Bretsky]

I think at times this seson Barry's game plans were horrible and his lack of adjustments at halftime exposed him. Go play back the first game and tell me the defense was remotely prepared and the game plan was remotely competent.

But he also gets credit for the recent resurgence, and learning from all his F'ck ups week one in how to defend an elite WR.

[Bretsky]

I'm starting to warm up to Barry. I still wouldn't mind if they got rid of him, but I also wouldn't mind too much if he stayed. As I said in the other thread. Barry seems to have the loyalty of the players, but he also has to show some smarts in his scheming. Today he did - Romo did a good job of explaining why they did better. As Bretsky said, it's increasingly doubtful they get rid of him.

Agree with all of this. I still think he's below average, but the end of the season is savings his job. And he is MLF's friend as well so we'll always error on the side of caution.

[call_me_ishmael]

It's now 4 straight games that they've given up 20 or less. The last 2 against pretty good offensive teams. I've been a critic of Barry, but he deserves some credit for the team's turnaround.

I agree with this as well. At this point I think the D is peaking at the right time and playing good ball. The feller from Georgia seems to be getting a lot more snaps too which is great.

Overall I am optimistic and think this team is clearly better *right now* than the 7th seed. That's a good place to be. I doubt this dude is getting fired based on the way things are going presently.

[Bretsky]

Just keep in mind how many first round draft picks are
On this side of the ball. The expectation was a top 5 area defense by many

[call_me_ishmael]

I kinda wonder if there are any aging-but-still-good pass rushers out there on the street. Still feel like that could be the downfall of this team come playoff time.

[run pMc]

I kinda wonder if there are any aging-but-still-good pass rushers out there on the street. Still feel like that could be the downfall of this team come playoff time.

Unlikely... good pass rushers of any age are rarely on the street. They are like gold. Mercilus being available last year was a fluke.
Seemed like Hollins is getting more reps than Enagbare? I noticed him a few times yesterday, he's actually been a pretty good pickup for them. Way better than Garvin IMO.

[Joemailman]

Unlikely... good pass rushers of any age are rarely on the street. They are like gold. Mercilus being available last year was a fluke.
Seemed like Hollins is getting more reps than Enagbare? I noticed him a few times yesterday, he's actually been a pretty good pickup for them. Way better than Garvin IMO.

Enagbare had 34 snaps. Hollins 26. FWIW, I thought Hollins flashed more. Both had 2 QB hits. Hollins had 1 TFL.