Official Fire Chuck Berry Thread

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Played man on two biggest plays of the game and Jaire got beat 2x

its like the whole god damn team has taken a giant step backwards this year

[Joemailman]

its like the whole god damn team has taken a giant step backwards this year

Well at least they're sticking together.

[texaspackerbacker]

Early in the game, Barry played more man coverage, and things were better. They stopped the run and pass both. As Washington adjusted and the young QB got better, though, Barry failed miserably to adjust to their adjustment - the same as in virtually every game this season. It ain't lack of talent that causes the inability to stop the run; It ain't lack of talent that causes inability to play quality zone pass D - if they're gonna insist on playing zone.

People have mentioned Gray as an alternative to Barry. I wouldn't give him a pass either, as even with our thoroughbred DBs, the Packer do a shittier job of playing zone than just about any team.

[Jaire]

I think Barry lost the locker room. this is just a pretty high caliber room and they are sticking to it. Reminds me too much of McCarthy's last year.

Change is needed.

[Bretsky]

interesting fyi. Packer reporter Tom pelissari reported some defensive players unhappy with the scheme and let our HC know. When asked about whether it occurred Marty commented that you can never make everybody happy. Not a good sign

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I think Barry lost the locker room. this is just a pretty high caliber room and they are sticking to it. Reminds me too much of McCarthy's last year.

Change is needed.

Looks like Jim Leonhard will be available.

[Jaire]

Looks like Jim Leonhard will be available.

really?

Why do you think?

[Bretsky]

Looks like Jim Leonhard will be available.

Why do you say that ? Badgers are playing with intensity, a welcome change.

I know some kind of connected who are sold that the College Football Bo Ryan is coming, but I am not buying it. I think it's Leonard.

If he lands some of the top tier WI recruits, such as Nate White and the Middleton LB I think his case would be even stronger

[th87]

Barry has failed everywhere he's been.

Who could've seen this coming?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Why do you say that ? Badgers are playing with intensity, a welcome change.

I know some kind of connected who are sold that the College Football Bo Ryan is coming, but I am not buying it. I think it's Leonard.

If he lands some of the top tier WI recruits, such as Nate White and the Middleton LB I think his case would be even stronger

Guess what, the Lions play with a tons of intensity under Campbell, too. Not that I give a fuck, but you want Wisconsin to be the Lions of D-1? Besides, Leonhard has always been a guy who feast on the likes of Southern Kentucky Confederate State A&M, but can’t beat the likes of the Ohio State.

Wisconsin would be wise to hire someone with no ties to Alvarez. Gotta get someone who can recruit them new breed of dual threat hotshot QBs. Lord knows Alvarez couldn’t recruit QBs worth a fuck. Ditto, his hand-picked successors.

That being said, I’d rather Leonhard be DC of my beloved Pack than Barry.

[Fritz]

At this moment I'd rather see my 86-year-old mom roaming the sidelines with a headset than Barry.

[run pMc]

At this moment I'd rather see my 86-year-old mom roaming the sidelines with a headset than Barry.

I would too.

[JABF]

Nothing bothers me more as a Packer fan than watching an opposing quarterback have all day to throw the ball. I well remember that '85 Bears defense and Buddy Ryan's 46 defense, and in all my years of watching football - since about 1967 - that was one of the best I've ever seen (along with the Steel Curtain defenses of the 70's, and the Giants' defenses of the 80's with Lawrence Taylor). Those defenses shut down the run, for sure, but they also had ferocious pass rushes. Just ferocious.

Although I recognize the risks of blitzing, I think coaches generally are too conservative, and this is true when it comes to blitzing. One concern I have is that Joe Barry seems extremely conservative so far, and that is no way to play defense, espcecially when you can't generate a pass rush. In that sense he reminds me of Dom Capers, who seemed to get more conservative along the way.

So my hope is that the players will get used to the system and Barry will adjust to his shitty defensive line corps by playing the younger D-linemen and blitzing more.

I remember a comment John Madden made during that 1985 season when everyone was talking about the Bears' 46 defense. Madden said it wasn't the scheme that made it elite but the players in that scheme. He said that elite players can make any scheme look great. That 1985 team had 9 Pro Bowl players and 4 Hall of Fame players - most of them were on defense. Mike Ditka was not a good coach, nor was Buddy Ryan. But they looked like geniuses when they had lights-out talent.

[Bretsky]

Guess what, the Lions play with a tons of intensity under Campbell, too. Not that I give a fuck, but you want Wisconsin to be the Lions of D-1? Besides, Leonhard has always been a guy who feast on the likes of Southern Kentucky Confederate State A&M, but can’t beat the likes of the Ohio State.

Wisconsin would be wise to hire someone with no ties to Alvarez. Gotta get someone who can recruit them new breed of dual threat hotshot QBs. Lord knows Alvarez couldn’t recruit QBs worth a fuck. Ditto, his hand-picked successors.

That being said, I’d rather Leonhard be DC of my beloved Pack than Barry.

FYI….Leonard has no coaching ties to Barry. He would have been a great DC for the packers talent

[Anti-Polar Bear]

[QUOTE=Bretsky;1123750]FYI