JJ Watt being released

[HarveyWallbangers]

$28M. Preston, Turner, and Kirksey are probably gone which would make them about even. Amos might be a casualty too.

I don’t see them cutting Turner. Maybe you meant Wagner, but there are ways to free up money.

Amos isn’t getting cut, but they can restructure his deal + Big Z + Rodgers.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Yes i realize there will be cuts and restructures. Over the cap says projected cap is $184 mil but I thought they agreed on $180.
28-32 mil still need to trim some ppl. Most teams are gonna have to do some of the same.

Nothing has been agreed on—other than the cap won’t be lower than $170m, but most think it will be around $185m with losses being pushed to future years.

[King Friday]

Vet min with heavy incentives or move on. He’s not the player he used to be and way too injury prone to take a risk

Funny...I heard the same refrain when Charles Woodson came to Green Bay.

[King Friday]

Maybe AR can take a pay cut ala Brady to get some weapons on both sides

Yep. If Rodgers wants to win, and wants high caliber guys like Watt on the team, time to put up or shut up. Restructure and free up cap space for the next 3-4 years by taking LESS money.

[Upnorth]

Funny...I heard the same refrain when Charles Woodson came to Green Bay.

Did woodson have 2 severe groin tears in 3 years?

[KYPack]

Watt just walked away from 17.5 million frogskins. He’s not gonna accept the fucking minimum-wage.

But fear not, uncool and cap clueless Pack fans, the cap can always be cooked.

You can't EVER cook the cap. A lesson clueless Tanky will learn this off season. We have a number of veterans heading into their second deals. You have to pay to keep those guys and we will have to pull some big time manipulations of one, MAYBE two contracts to keep some guys around. JJ Watt? we will have to get rid of some vet deals, not add another one.

Keep working that grill, management is way off in your future.

[RashanGary]

I don’t see them cutting Turner. Maybe you meant Wagner, but there are ways to free up money.

Amos isn’t getting cut, but they can restructure his deal + Big Z + Rodgers.

This is it. Restructure those big three, cut kirksey, Wagner, Preston.... Might be able to then.

[RashanGary]

You can't EVER cook the cap. A lesson clueless Tanky will learn this off season. We have a number of veterans heading into their second deals. You have to pay to keep those guys and we will have to pull some big time manipulations of one, MAYBE two contracts to keep some guys around. JJ Watt? we will have to get rid of some vet deals, not add another one.

Keep working that grill, management is way off in your future.

Lol!!!!!!

You've laid out the cap consequences, and how the piper always has to get paid pretty clearly before. Anyone who doesn't get it, will never get it. You can get away with a little extra for a couple years (which they may do now) but eventually you pay for bad contracts.

[RashanGary]

Covid cap casualty #1


Up next, half the eagles team and about 2 guys from most teams.

[texaspackerbacker]

Cook the cap and get Watt in the Green and Musta Yella, promptly, and I ain’t just saying this cos Watt is as white as the snow of Greenland. The last time the Packers had a bona fide pass rusher from inside the guts, they won the Super Bowl. 10 years has gone so fast (wake me up when September begins), and Packers still have not found Cullen Jenkins’ replacement.

Jenkins was acquired by Sherman, by the way.

Get Watt, Patrick Peterson and Joey Galloway (#19 of the Kittens) in the Green and Musta Yella. Do your fucking job, German Shepherd!

I like your attitude hahahaha, but I'm not sure how easy or doable it is.

Watt would look real nice next to Kenny Clark, your favorite, APB. If his price or cap number his $7-10 million or more, we probably better pass on him. But if we can get him for $3-6 million - which of course, would be a lot higher average per year with a big bonus spread over a few years, then get him. Peterson is only 30, and he should still be good - probably too good to have a shot at him. And Golladay is damn good, but we really don't need a WR, and he probably would be too expensive too.

I've always said, I liked Sherman's style as GM. Gutekunst is either gonna apply some of that this off-season, or we are gonna be in for a nose dive.

[texaspackerbacker]

You can't EVER cook the cap. A lesson clueless Tanky will learn this off season. We have a number of veterans heading into their second deals. You have to pay to keep those guys and we will have to pull some big time manipulations of one, MAYBE two contracts to keep some guys around. JJ Watt? we will have to get rid of some vet deals, not add another one.

Keep working that grill, management is way off in your future.

I think we had this discussion before. It kinda depends what you mean by cooking. If you're talking about breaking the rules, no, you can't. But if you're talking about restructuring, converting money to beat the cap, signing guys with large bonuses spread over the contract and very little the first year, yes, that is very doable.

Restructuring Rodgers, Zadarius, and Bakhtiari alone would put us in good shape. Several others would be possible too. Coughing up a lot of bonus i.e. guaranteed money would get us Aaron Jones and probably Linsley too. Handled right, we probably could get Watt, a really good Corner like Desmond King, Bradley Roby, or maybe Richard Sherman, etc.

[RashanGary]

Tex, if it didn't have consequences, they'd be idiots of course to not spend free extra money. It gets paid one day and when that day comes you're not only paying for today but you're paying for yesterday today and it all crashes down.

Rodgers age, I'm ok to pay later and rebuild. But know that day is coming.

[RashanGary]

If everyone had free extra cap money to spend without risk and consequence, this isn't a conversation. They and everyone would do it. Since it does have consequences and risk, we should be talking about that as we consider doing it. Just so the whole picture is understood.

[texaspackerbacker]

RG, what you're talking about is what the Packers offered Aaron Jones that he rejected. What I'm talking about is what he supposedly wants and what we should be offering - a huge bonus spread out over 6-7 years and a tiny first year salary - $35 million bonus with $1 million first year salary, $8, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15 million for years 2-7. That's $108 million for 7 years, $36 million guaranteed, and just a $6 million cap hit the first year. THAT is what I'm talking about when I say cooking the cap.

If he gets hurt or fades soon, we are screwed, but if he's still good to his early 30s, it's a fair deal.

[GB-Brandon]

Maybe reading this will help some of you understand what needs to happen and how it works and how it’s more on Gute then really on Rodgers. Pretty good explanation of what I’ve been trying to post with seemingly nobody getting it which is nothing new actually.

https://zonecoverage.com/2021/green-bay-packers/what-green-bay-does-with-rodgers-contract-will-tell-us-if-theyre-all-in/