JJ Watt being released

[GB-Brandon]

10% makes sense. Same for Rodgers. You get your stars on 10% less and that opens things up. Expecting 10M per for 32 year old JJ Watt is just wishful thinking.

Then go to Cleveland cause it’s an overinflated number to begin with if people are being honest. Cleveland Loves to make these types of deals and they almost NEVER WORK!!!

[RashanGary]

Fine, but JJ Watt was in a deal and probably wasn’t playing up to that contract when you consider his sack numbers and availability over the last few years. So are you paying premium dollars for the “Name” or the “Current Production”?

Are you reaching that he is gonna regain a certain level of play at 32 after a bunch of injuries? What exactly is the vision of what your getting for 17 million dollars a year?

Watt will get 15 sacks per year for a couple more years. And he’s a good run player, instinctive, smart and plays overall defense at a really high level. He’ll be one of the best lineman in football for a few more years.

[GB-Brandon]

10% makes sense. Same for Rodgers. You get your stars on 10% less and that opens things up. Expecting 10M per for 32 year old JJ Watt is just wishful thinking.

Let’s put Rodgers at 45 million then and deduct 10 percent with this stupid formula!!!!! Where does that get us Einstein?!!!!!

MY GOD!!!!!

[GB-Brandon]

Watt will get 15 sacks per year for a couple more years. And he’s a good run player, instinctive, smart and plays overall defense at a really high level. He’ll be one of the best lineman in football for a few more years.

He’s had one 15 sack season in the last 5 seasons(only 1 10 sack season at that) so your “Reaching” big time!! It’s no sure thing that’s for sure so no dice on no 17 million per with tons of guaranteed $ on a multi year deal! Cleveland is Fucken Crazy!!

Watt should sign a one year deal with us and go from there. If he really wants to lock the Packers into a long term deal that’s what he needs to do.

[GB-Brandon]

If Playing in Green Bay is really on JJ’s bucket list and winning a Super Bowl Etc Etc Etc. Sign a ONE YEAR DEAL and then go cash in on the Browns if your still hard up for $ or go play with your brothers. They aren’t going anywhere!!!

That’s IT!!

[bobblehead]

I was using sarcasm. Brandon suggests a 7M / year deal for Ol number 99 there. Just do it Gute, dial it up. All on you.

Sorry, JJ didn't want to come home when he was a huge asset, I'm not paying him to come home when he is surrounded with uncertainty. $3 million would be my max. He is as likely to be hurt by the playoffs as he is to play in them so I'm not paying him just cuz he is a native.

[bobblehead]

All the speculation about what Watt would or should be willing to sign for is leaving out an important factor. It's not just about whether you do or don't already have enough money. When you accept a discounted offer, especially when you leave a large chunk of money on the table ($10M/year vs. $17M as some are proposing), your decision has a negative effect on the earning power of all the other players in the league. Your "hometown discount" depresses the market, affecting not only guys like Watt who have already banked a considerable amount but also the up and coming guys who are negotiating their second contract. That makes the owners very happy. The players union, not so much.

Hard cap Hoosier. The only thing that affects a players earnings is what an owner is willing to pay them.

[GB-Brandon]

All the speculation about what Watt would or should be willing to sign for is leaving out an important factor. It's not just about whether you do or don't already have enough money. When you accept a discounted offer, especially when you leave a large chunk of money on the table ($10M/year vs. $17M as some are proposing), your decision has a negative effect on the earning power of all the other players in the league. Your "hometown discount" depresses the market, affecting not only guys like Watt who have already banked a considerable amount but also the up and coming guys who are negotiating their second contract. That makes the owners very happy. The players union, not so much.

Don’t forget the fact that you have a handful of teams that are usually “Setting The Market” with players every off-season. You know the teams? The ones that are constantly turning their rosters over every 2-3 years. The Jets, Jags, Bears, Broncos, Browns, Bucc’s, Wash Football Team, Raiders and lining up to overpay free agents over and over.

These culprits are just as guilty to the downside. They tank and then horde cap space for a year or two then come out willing to overpay anyone they can get their hands on.

[hoosier]

Hard cap Hoosier. The only thing that affects a players earnings is what an owner is willing to pay them.

NFL hard cap doesn't mean every last dollar gets spent. Browns had, what, $30M left in cap space in 2021? Salary negotiations regularly take into account recent contracts signed by comparable players.

[sharpe1027]

All the speculation about what Watt would or should be willing to sign for is leaving out an important factor. It's not just about whether you do or don't already have enough money. When you accept a discounted offer, especially when you leave a large chunk of money on the table ($10M/year vs. $17M as some are proposing), your decision has a negative effect on the earning power of all the other players in the league. Your "hometown discount" depresses the market, affecting not only guys like Watt who have already banked a considerable amount but also the up and coming guys who are negotiating their second contract. That makes the owners very happy. The players union, not so much.

Maybe for a player extending a contract, if their agent is too crappy to make the case to exclude exceptions like that. On the open market, you get what the highest bidder offers.

[GB-Brandon]

The Browns did this exact same shit last year with Jadeveon Clowney! Same exact game. They jumped right in there right out the gate and offered the Most which was like 18 million! Clowney held out for 20 and then offers started disappearing and he ended up with “13” after incentives with the Titans. We’ll see how Watt wants to play this but $ is going to dry up even faster this offseason and he is 5 years older then Clowney with similar injury concerns.

Clowney finished the season with Zero Sacks BTW.

[RashanGary]

JJ Watt is like Woodson 10 years ago, a truly elite player. Clowney is a horrible comparison.

[GB-Brandon]

JJ Watt is like Woodson 10 years ago, a truly elite player. Clowney is a horrible comparison.

I was more or less showing “What The Browns Do” and I wouldn’t pay either of them that kind of $. I certainly would take Watt over Clowney though.

[texaspackerbacker]

I've seen enough Houston games the last couple of years to be hopeful he still is good. He was doubled teamed or more on virtually every pass play, and he still had some success. Playing next to Clark, and with the Packers' OLBs, he should have a lot more success.

[GB-Brandon]

I've seen enough Houston games the last couple of years to be hopeful he still is good. He was doubled teamed or more on virtually every pass play, and he still had some success. Playing next to Clark, and with the Packers' OLBs, he should have a lot more success.

This i would agree with and why I do want the Packers to sign him along with the intangibles but when calculating the injury history and the Packers other needs it needs to be done contractually right which so all goals/needs can be attained. There is a lot in this for JJ Watt.