JJ Watt being released

[RashanGary]

Maybe you can hire out to the Saints. They'd like to figure out how to fix the cap hell they are in right now.

This is a really good example of cap hell and pulling that lever is what gets you there eventually.

[GB-Brandon]

A Global Pandemic happened. Not really sure there was anyway to prepare other then not field a competitive team. Yeah, the Saints pushed $ back on the Drew Bree’s run and that run is now over. Bree’s is 42 and retired. The Packers aren’t there yet if they don’t want to be. They have a path as Rodgers is “37” and can continue for at least five more years pushing back with “12’s” cooperation.

Will there be an end doing this? Yes, but it won’t be until 2026 unless Rodgers suffers a major career ending injury. This is the chance that needs to be taken and gives the Packers the best chance moving forward. If you can’t bet on Aaron Rodgers then I’m not sure who you can bet on!!!

[Fritz]

But that isn't cooking the cap. Cap cooking implies you can make an unlimited number of maneuvers to get the players you want. There are real limits to what you can do. This scenario to sign Watts involved some moves with player buy-in. One major player refuses that offer and the whole scheme is down the tubes.

You usually invoke the "cap cook" to sign whatever is your latest fan boy fav. It doesn't work that way. SOMETIMES you can pull a lever, but you usually only get to pull it once.

Maybe you can hire out to the Saints. They'd like to figure out how to fix the cap hell they are in right now.

Are you suggesting that Tank is a lever-puller??

[bobblehead]

Btw, Kentucky, here’s a nice article in which high ranking suits in the NFL talk about cooking the cap (“There’s always a lever you can pull”):

https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/news/...r-packers-watt

While its true you can mostly push it down the road (until you run out of pavement), I still don't want to pay JJ what some stupid GM will pay him. I would rather pay guys like Cory Davis and then bargain hunt for guys like Ty Montgomery. There will be so many talented players that have to settle for smaller deals this year. Find me a RT that is flying under the radar.

[smuggler]

Compare what Preston is getting with what people are thinking JJ might get. It makes sense to dump Preston and it probably makes sense to sign JJ, assuming the medicals all check out. In his case, they may not.

[Upnorth]

Compare what Preston is getting with what people are thinking JJ might get. It makes sense to dump Preston and it probably makes sense to sign JJ, assuming the medicals all check out. In his case, they may not.

If we can restructures d adams, rodgers and p smith (with a minor pay cut) contracts we can get both. Give Adams a 4 yr, rodgers a 3 yr and Smith and watt 2 or 3 yr contracts.

I said somewhere having z p gary and watt in rotation... That is destructive force. Plus everyone is a bit more rested.

[texaspackerbacker]

Good Post, Upnorth. I was thinking too, we can get both. Clearly Watt is better than P. Smith, but Preston does do some things Watt doesn't like occasional adequate pass coverage.

[RashanGary]

Good Post, Upnorth. I was thinking too, we can get both. Clearly Watt is better than P. Smith, but Preston does do some things Watt doesn't like occasional adequate pass coverage.

Preston appeared in poor shape coming back and I think his play spoke to that. If Preston was a really driven and focused guy, I think he brings a lot to the table as far as opening up the playbook. But unfortunately he’s just so/so in his offseason work. Gary is grinding like a psycho while Preston chills. Gary should pass him.

[GB-Brandon]

That’s the thing about P. Smith that is concerning is your paying all that $ to a player that can’t even keep himself in shape on his own. For a true professional getting paid all that $ that is completely unacceptable. He has enough $ to buy an in home gym. “LAZY” and that was his tag in Washington. Gute made the signing!! He is one of those guys that needs to be micro-managed.

Their is another guy that people have “Dreams” about in this category too!!!

[GB-Brandon]

You need to do your due diligence on these players and find out what their Fucken habits are before you invest soooooo much!

Your supposed to be some big high level exec with a plethora of resources & information!! How can a guy like me know with limited sources and info know and Gute doesn’t?

[RashanGary]

Tennessee, Buffalo and Green Bay the last three teams in the Watt sweepstakes. Go pack go.

[GB-Brandon]

Like I said after all the dust settles and smoke clears I expect him to sign with Packers on a “One Year Deal” around 7-10 million.

[bobblehead]

Preston appeared in poor shape coming back and I think his play spoke to that. If Preston was a really driven and focused guy, I think he brings a lot to the table as far as opening up the playbook. But unfortunately he’s just so/so in his offseason work. Gary is grinding like a psycho while Preston chills. Gary should pass him.

This appeared to be the reality. Not sure I saw any reports Preston was out of shape, but he clearly didn't perform well. Some guys get paid and thats the end of it. If its true I would probably fly to preston for a meet up the day before we can release him and see what he looks like. Watch a workout and go from there.

[bobblehead]

The best reason to sign JJ would be so he can tell TJ about the all world facilities and atmosphere. Of course if we had just drafted TJ this wouldn't be an issue.

[Fritz]

This appeared to be the reality. Not sure I saw any reports Preston was out of shape, but he clearly didn't perform well. Some guys get paid and thats the end of it. If its true I would probably fly to preston for a meet up the day before we can release him and see what he looks like. Watch a workout and go from there.

I did read in the JSO that Preston Smith came into camp kinda soft and puffy. But would he agree to a meat and greet (pun intended) so they could look him over and decide whether or not to release him based on his shape? I don't know how that stuff works.

I don't want JJ Watt. Too big a risk. They've got more important players to sign. Watt is starting to break down. You want to pay five million a year for someone who's getting worse and worse? That's like signing that tight end from a couple years ago who had been an all pro but was a piece of poo for the Packers. I think they finally released him mid-season. He sucked.