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  • #16
    Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
    Newsome is no sleeper. After measuring 6'1", running 4.31, and jumping 40" at his virtual Pro Day, he likely won't be available when we pick.
    He certainly blew things up at the Northwestern Pro day. Harv, you think he'll go before #29 though? With those measurables he's certainly appears to be first round talent when also considering his play on the field, but that would be quite some rise to that level.

    Certainly no longer a sleeper and apparently not going to last past round 2 and more likely to go in the top 50 it seems.

    In replacement to him given his elevation to blue chip prospect, any thoughts on the following potential CB sleepers?

    Kary Vincent (LSU)
    - seems to have good speed (just under 4.45)
    - a little undersized (5'10) and possibly limited to slot

    Chase Lucas (ASU)
    - decent height (6'0)
    - decent speed (around 4.5)
    - needs to bulk up a bit but is appears to be fairly physical

    Tay Gowan (UCF)
    - great height (6.2)
    - lean frame (175lbs) and concerns on holding up to NFL size
    - pro day April 1st and could blow up if he's as fast as some suspect
    60% of the time it works every time.

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    • #17
      Draft Sleepers?

      I got your draft sleeper right here:

      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

      KYPack

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      • #18
        If we want some addition to skill positions without FA, I would target Najee Harris at end of first. If guys like a WR with size, Bateman and/or Marshall could slide to end of first in a deep WR draft.

        If we are going outside the first round, its anyone's guess who will be available.
        The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Fritz View Post
          Draft Sleepers?

          I got your draft sleeper right here:

          Love that picture. Pretty much sums up Sherman's GM performance. He wasn't a bad coach, just a lousy general manager.
          60% of the time it works every time.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Spaulding View Post
            Love that picture. Pretty much sums up Sherman's GM performance. He wasn't a bad coach, just a lousy general manager.
            He is the reason some arm chair gms could actually be better than some real gms. Him and Matt millen
            All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

            George Orwell

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
              He is the reason some arm chair gms could actually be better than some real gms. Him and Matt millen
              He was bad. But where is he on the Bill O'Brien scale?
              Originally posted by 3irty1
              This is museum quality stupidity.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Zool View Post
                He was bad. But where is he on the Bill O'Brien scale?
                He is a solid 13 on a scale of 1 to 10 of suckitude. I believe millen is a 14 with Bob at 16
                All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                George Orwell

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                • #23

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                  • #24
                    One guy I like is Demetric Felton, RB/WR, UCLA. He'd be a change of pace RB/Jet sweep/slot WR/kick returner guy. He's listed at 5-9, 189. Draft Network has him listed at #112 on their big board, Pro Football Network at #142.

                    Pro Football Network has a pretty thorough Profile of him. https://www.profootballnetwork.com/d...-running-back/

                    I can't run no more
                    With that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places
                    Say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                    A thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • #25
                      OT Dillon Radunz tested well. He's a potential sleeper 1st round pick for the Packers. He has a lot of what the Packers look for in an OT. He's relatively similar to former Bison and current Packer Billy Turner, but he's even a bit better athlete (and Turner is a solid athlete) with more nastiness. He plays to the whistle--which is my biggest knock on Turner. Sometimes, he stops on a play too soon.

                      Dillon Radunz = 6'5" 301, 5.11 40, 7.27 3-cone, 32" vertical, 24 bench reps, 33 1/4" arm length (meets the 33" threshold that teams prefer at LT)
                      David Bakhtiari = 6'4" 299, 5.09 40, 7.70 3-cone, 25 1/2" vertical, 28 bench reps, 34" arm length

                      Not sure how believable these virtual Pro Days are, but it's apparent on tape that he's a good athlete. They measured his arm length at the Senior Bowl. Radunz was very good at the Senior Bowl.
                      Last edited by HarveyWallbangers; 03-13-2021, 10:43 AM.
                      "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                        OT Dillon Radunz tested well. He's a potential sleeper 1st round pick for the Packers. He has a lot of what the Packers look for in an OT. He's relatively similar to former Bison and current Packer Billy Turner, but he's even a bit better athlete (and Turner is a solid athlete) with more nastiness. He plays to the whistle--which is my biggest knock on Turner. Sometimes, he stops on a play too soon.

                        Dillon Radunz = 6'5" 301, 5.11 40, 7.27 3-cone, 32" vertical, 24 bench reps, 33 1/4" arm length (meets the 33" threshold that teams prefer at LT)
                        David Bakhtiari = 6'4" 299, 5.09 40, 7.70 3-cone, 25 1/2" vertical, 28 bench reps, 34" arm length

                        Not sure how believable these virtual Pro Days are, but it's apparent on tape that he's a good athlete. They measured his arm length at the Senior Bowl. Radunz was very good at the Senior Bowl.
                        If that 3-cone time is accurate, that would be off the charts great for an offensive lineman. Bakhtiari's is actually pretty great.
                        I can't run no more
                        With that lawless crowd
                        While the killers in high places
                        Say their prayers out loud
                        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                        A thundercloud
                        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                          If that 3-cone time is accurate, that would be off the charts great for an offensive lineman. Bakhtiari's is actually pretty great.
                          I think only Ezra Cleveland had a better 3-cone drill at the last combine among OL.
                          "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
                            He is a solid 13 on a scale of 1 to 10 of suckitude. I believe millen is a 14 with Bob at 16
                            This seems like a fair and accurate scale. As a coach he wasn't bad though. I even liked him. If we use your same scale on coaching ability, Bob maintains his 16, with Gase replacing Millen on the sliding scale. Recent history MM sits at the normal shitty coach meter of 10.
                            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                              OT Dillon Radunz tested well. He's a potential sleeper 1st round pick for the Packers. He has a lot of what the Packers look for in an OT. He's relatively similar to former Bison and current Packer Billy Turner, but he's even a bit better athlete (and Turner is a solid athlete) with more nastiness. He plays to the whistle--which is my biggest knock on Turner. Sometimes, he stops on a play too soon.

                              Dillon Radunz = 6'5" 301, 5.11 40, 7.27 3-cone, 32" vertical, 24 bench reps, 33 1/4" arm length (meets the 33" threshold that teams prefer at LT)
                              David Bakhtiari = 6'4" 299, 5.09 40, 7.70 3-cone, 25 1/2" vertical, 28 bench reps, 34" arm length

                              Not sure how believable these virtual Pro Days are, but it's apparent on tape that he's a good athlete. They measured his arm length at the Senior Bowl. Radunz was very good at the Senior Bowl.
                              That 3 cone would be epic for a man that size. Not sure I'm buying in. But the explosive vertical for a big man means its probably really good even with an electronic timer.
                              The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                                If that 3-cone time is accurate, that would be off the charts great for an offensive lineman. Bakhtiari's is actually pretty great.
                                I always forget to read 3 posts further before commenting to see if anyone already said that.
                                The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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