The nice thing about Jones, he’s about as valuable as a WR and comes for a lot less money. If he plays 14 games per season he’s worth that 10 easy.
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Cons: A lot to pay a RB, especially in a year with a softened FA market and back of the round pick where best RBs go.
Pros: Its not a mountain of guaranteed money. Its under market value and only reaches market value if he performs. It sends a message to the team that if you play out your rookie deal without holding out or complaining this organization will do everything it can to reward you. Continuity of offense. He is a class guy not likely to mail it in after getting paid.
I can live with it. I still think the "right" move in a financial vacuum wasn't to pay a RB, but the other factors....especially the message to young guys make me happy enough to have a guy who has done everything right back in the fold.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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I understand not paying RBs, but sometimes it works out. Jones won't mail it in, and he doesn't have a lot of mileage.
Here's another thing to think about:
Jonnu Smith just got 4y/$50M with $31M guaranteed from New England. Aaron Jones got 4y/$43-48M with $13M guaranteed."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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Like I said, its below market value. It also locks him to us through his and any RBs prime. I love the kid. I always said I hope he gets paid. He definitely left money on the table to come back. I love him more. Hope for him and all of us he gets a few rings in that deal.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostI understand not paying RBs, but sometimes it works out. Jones won't mail it in, and he doesn't have a lot of mileage.
Here's another thing to think about:
Jonnu Smith just got 4y/$50M with $31M guaranteed from New England. Aaron Jones got 4y/$43-48M with $13M guaranteed.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Tonyan and his agent have to be doing cartwheels over that Jonnu Smith contract.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostI understand not paying RBs, but sometimes it works out. Jones won't mail it in, and he doesn't have a lot of mileage.
Here's another thing to think about:
Jonnu Smith just got 4y/$50M with $31M guaranteed from New England. Aaron Jones got 4y/$43-48M with $13M guaranteed.I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Wow, a reasonable response from someone who is willing to see both sides.Originally posted by bobblehead View PostCons: A lot to pay a RB, especially in a year with a softened FA market and back of the round pick where best RBs go.
Pros: Its not a mountain of guaranteed money. Its under market value and only reaches market value if he performs. It sends a message to the team that if you play out your rookie deal without holding out or complaining this organization will do everything it can to reward you. Continuity of offense. He is a class guy not likely to mail it in after getting paid.
I can live with it. I still think the "right" move in a financial vacuum wasn't to pay a RB, but the other factors....especially the message to young guys make me happy enough to have a guy who has done everything right back in the fold.
Am I on Packerrats right now?
Kudos to Bobble here."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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I've always had the same opinion about paying big for RBs - until Aaron Jones came along. I saw the Cowboys pay big for Emmett Smith and regret it, and I saw them pay Ezekial Elliot and regret that too. Jones is different, though - younger than Smith was and a whole lot better attitude and character than Elliot or a lot of other good RBs. And of course, he is that kind of speed back breakaway threat that IMO we absolutely need. And I'm thinking this deal should only cost about $5 million against this years cap - $13 divided by 4 = $4.25 million + probably less than a million first year salary.Originally posted by Upnorth View PostI find it funny how you look at this and think great job gute and I look at this and see it as misguided and a mistake. To me this one rb (and rb2 production is the easiest to replace especially with a quality line) cost us a pro bowl centre and a slot CB.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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Another problem with the jones signing is how to pay tonyan and still find a fa corner. Adams and z extensions will be mostly used by Tonyan so unless we are willing to reopen the rodgers contract (which if you saw what dal got would be epically stupid) we are getting our draft players and no fa.All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
George Orwell
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They can have Tonyan back for cheap this year, so it's not really an issue that needs to be dealt with now. If Tonyan's market is now similar to Jonnu Smith, we probably move on from him. Hopefully, Sternberger stays healthy and Deguara returns from his injury.Originally posted by Upnorth View PostAnother problem with the jones signing is how to pay tonyan and still find a fa corner. Adams and z extensions will be mostly used by Tonyan so unless we are willing to reopen the rodgers contract (which if you saw what dal got would be epically stupid) we are getting our draft players and no fa."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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While I don't think Tonyan gets Johnny money I thought we should try get a 4 year contract this year. And that won't be cheap.All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
George Orwell
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Posted this in the free agency thread, but it probably belongs here.
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Aaron Jones' contract:
Signing bonus: $13M
Salaries: $1M, $1.1M, $8.1M, $11.1M
Roster bonuses: $3.75M in 2022, $7M in 2023
Annual per-gamers: $200K in 2021, $400K in 2022-2023
Workout: $50K in 2021, $500K in 2022-2024
Pro Bowl escalator: $250K annuallyOriginally posted by Joemailman View PostThis could be a 2 year contract.I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Looks a lot like a $18.5M plus incentives over 2 years contract. If it's not working out after 2022, a $6.5M cap hit if they cut him before June 1st of 2023.
His cap hit in 2023 would be $18.5. I love me some Aaron Jones, but he ain't seeing that money.Originally posted by 3irty1This is museum quality stupidity.
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Right. In 2023 they would save 13M on the cap by cutting him by June 1. https://overthecap.com/player/aaron-jones/5768/Originally posted by Zool View PostLooks a lot like a $18.5M plus incentives over 2 years contract. If it's not working out after 2022, a $6.5M cap hit if they cut him before June 1st of 2023.
His cap hit in 2023 would be $18.5. I love me some Aaron Jones, but he ain't seeing that money.I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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So he got $9M per for 2 years. Just like a ton of people thought.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostRight. In 2023 they would save 13M on the cap by cutting him by June 1. https://overthecap.com/player/aaron-jones/5768/Originally posted by 3irty1This is museum quality stupidity.
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