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  • #31
    Originally posted by Zool View Post
    Hell yes, keep that OL stocked! Some people hate the idea of drafting OTs high all the time, but also hate the idea of the Bacteria contract. It can't be both ways.

    Really depends on what you consider high draft picks. How many round one guys have we snatched. Bulaga ? Was the one before John Michaels ? I think we've had out share of round 2 guys and some round 4 and mid rounders.

    Sice round 3 always SUCKS, and we can draft OL, maybe we should just use that round every year to hit OL
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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    • #32
      It's a deep OT class. There should be several available at BPA rounds 1 to 4. Also a deep draft class overall.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
        Really depends on what you consider high draft picks. How many round one guys have we snatched. Bulaga ? Was the one before John Michaels ? I think we've had out share of round 2 guys and some round 4 and mid rounders.

        Sice round 3 always SUCKS, and we can draft OL, maybe we should just use that round every year to hit OL
        You forgot Derek Sherrod the year after Bulaga and also Ross Verba the year after Michael. And before that, there was Aaron Taylor and of course, Tony Mandarich.

        We - as well as a lot of other teams - have mostly not had good luck with first round O Linemen.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
          Really depends on what you consider high draft picks. How many round one guys have we snatched. Bulaga ? Was the one before John Michaels ? I think we've had out share of round 2 guys and some round 4 and mid rounders.

          Sice round 3 always SUCKS, and we can draft OL, maybe we should just use that round every year to hit OL
          Teams historically hit on less than 50% of their overall picks. I would draft OL every year in one of the first 2-3 rounds, but that's just me.
          Originally posted by 3irty1
          This is museum quality stupidity.

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          • #35
            I am with Zool and Joe both. Draft them, keep them, develop them. OL win games. A great OL makes and average QB great and Rodgers GOAT. A great OL opens holes in the run game. Games are won in the trenches.

            If the biggest problem the Packers have is that they just have too darn many good OL, then I'm ok with that.
            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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            • #36
              Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
              I am with Zool and Joe both. Draft them, keep them, develop them. OL win games. A great OL makes and average QB great and Rodgers GOAT. A great OL opens holes in the run game. Games are won in the trenches.

              If the biggest problem the Packers have is that they just have too darn many good OL, then I'm ok with that.


              This.

              We lost the NFCCG on the Oline and the Dline. We do need a CB across from Jaire and another receiver or two for the future. But we lost big time in the trenches, as did KC. There's actually some depth at DL in this draft, just only one 1st rounder imo (Barmore). Also a deep class at edge with a few I like: no such thing as too many CBs, edge, & OL -- and it's deep at all esp CB & OT.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Jaire View Post
                This.

                We lost the NFCCG on the Oline and the Dline. We do need a CB across from Jaire and another receiver or two for the future. But we lost big time in the trenches, as did KC. There's actually some depth at DL in this draft, just only one 1st rounder imo (Barmore). Also a deep class at edge with a few I like: no such thing as too many CBs, edge, & OL -- and it's deep at all esp CB & OT.
                Agree with this. Bucs won because Wagner and Turner had bad games and then KC trotted out its backup tackles. Also, GB had all kinds of trouble getting off the field on 3rd down in the first half.
                I'm not sure about the DL draft depth, but GB needs help there and have lost Snacks, Montravious, Billy Winn, and Lancaster might not be back. Basically they have KC, Lowry and Keke. With the whole Parcells theory of "only so many gifted large humans on the planet", I wouldn't be shocked if Gute drafts on the OL or DL early at all. They're a little overdue for it actually.

                As for the OL -- I wanted them to look at OT last year, this year they really need to. I agree Jenkins can play almost anywhere on the line, but I think he's best left at LG where he's All-Pro. You can plug Runyan or Stepaniak at RG and Patrick to C, and Turner can probably get you thru 3-4 games until Bahk returns (barring a setback). I'd love it if Njiman showed something and this camp will be make or break for him IMO.

                As for Jake Hansen, I heard he had a rough camp but I'm holding out hope there's something closer to a real offseason and he can develop into a player. He played 4 years at C in the Pac12 snapping to Justin Herbert.
                They must like Stepaniak -- he was on the roster at the end of season.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
                  The Iranian Stallion (Bak) likely ain’t gonna be ready for combat til December. If Jenkins is the superior “Oher” on the team with Bak MIA, well, play him at the Oher.

                  Turner ain’t no superior LT. Lest y’all forget, the fucking Pirates of the Caribbean ate him out alive in that infamous NFC title game.
                  Ohr couldn't cut it at LT and ended up a decent RT. I think Jenkins is superior to Ohr. He would be better at either tackle position.
                  The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                    We need some developmental luck inside. If runyan, stepaniak and Hanson somehow pan out, it will ease the pressure at tackle with Turner and Jenkins being able to slide.

                    An injury early could make for a dumpster fire at tackle.


                    I do not love the way our OL tentatively looks going into 2021. A first round OT would ease concerns.
                    Jenkins at RT with Bak at LT when he gets back would ease my concerns. Re sign Taylor and we have a lot of decent assets that we could make it a good line. Or draft a good OT at 30 like maybe Leatherwood and then things look real good.
                    The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Jaire View Post
                      This.

                      We lost the NFCCG on the Oline and the Dline. We do need a CB across from Jaire and another receiver or two for the future. But we lost big time in the trenches, as did KC. There's actually some depth at DL in this draft, just only one 1st rounder imo (Barmore). Also a deep class at edge with a few I like: no such thing as too many CBs, edge, & OL -- and it's deep at all esp CB & OT.
                      I haven't gotten carried away with the draft, but it seems deep at OL and like you said, 2nd teir deep at DL. Going OL/DL in 1/2 might very well happen. Of course those screaming for WR might lose their shit if this plays out. I think trying to get king back on a 1 year makes a lot of sense. He isn't as bad as people think.
                      The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                      • #41
                        I'm not getting mad at WR anymore; Arod just needs to play at an elite level and maximize their ability. And GB doesn't really place value on ILB so I'm not getting mad there anymore either.
                        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                        • #42
                          The more I look at it, the more I think the Packers starting RT could be a rookie 1st round pick. Jalen Mayfield, Tevin Jenkins, Dillon Radunz, Liam Eichenberg and Samuel Cosmi are all possibilities to be available. Once Bakh comes back a lineup of Bakh/Runyan/Jenkins/Turner/Rookie would be better than last year.
                          I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
                          While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
                          But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
                          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                            I'm not getting mad at WR anymore; Arod just needs to play at an elite level and maximize their ability. And GB doesn't really place value on ILB so I'm not getting mad there anymore either.
                            Adams was about the same with Hundley as Rodgers. I'm pretty sure the other guys would be themselves with Hundley too. It's more than the QB.
                            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                              The more I look at it, the more I think the Packers starting RT could be a rookie 1st round pick. Jalen Mayfield, Tevin Jenkins, Dillon Radunz, Liam Eichenberg and Samuel Cosmi are all possibilities to be available. Once Bakh comes back a lineup of Bakh/Runyan/Jenkins/Turner/Rookie would be better than last year.
                              It's very possible. Turner might be the long term RT too. I have good confidence that Runyan will improve. If Hanson or Stepaniak also pan out, we might be fine without a high draft pick. But I still want OT in the first round. I like having an upper tier line and like the idea of it being upper tier for years to come.
                              Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                              • #45
                                Starting OL in 1st OTA was Jenkins, Runyan, Myers, Patrick, Turner. I thing this is the most likely lineup before Bakhtiari returns. When he returns, Jenkins likely goes to LG.
                                I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
                                While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
                                But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
                                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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