Zaven Collins for me. Although I doubt he is available. Amazing athletically and still is quite large. Can do it all, stuff the run, rush the passer, and defend the pass. Plus, he was a late bloomer. Not highly recruited, he only blossomed as a sophomore. He got better each game. I think he has more untapped potential to grow as a player, more than most. It's not a dire need, but I think it will still make a big impact on our team.
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He's my favorite defensive player in this draft that the Packers might have a shot at. I think he can play either inside or outside which gives the DC great flexibility.Originally posted by cheesner View PostZaven Collins for me. Although I doubt he is available. Amazing athletically and still is quite large. Can do it all, stuff the run, rush the passer, and defend the pass. Plus, he was a late bloomer. Not highly recruited, he only blossomed as a sophomore. He got better each game. I think he has more untapped potential to grow as a player, more than most. It's not a dire need, but I think it will still make a big impact on our team.
In eight games, Collins put up 54 tackles, 7.5 tackles for loss, 4.0 sacks, four interceptions, two pass deflections, two forced fumbles, a safety, and a fumble recovery. The Tulsa linebacker also took two of his interceptions back to the end zone and accumulated 156 return yards.I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
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After last draft I fully expect no CB to be drafted.
However I did see a mock where Owusu-Koramoah fell to us. He is a ilb who also played slot CB with a fair amount of sucsess (so I have read). Now that would be a great pickup.All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
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I voted bateman, although I actually want a big man. Truth is I haven't scouted and I'm a BPA guy all the way. Hopefully one of the OL slips to us in the 1st. I really hope the board coincides with OL/DL 1st 2 picks.
Bottom line though, I think we can work around any perceived weaknesses at this point and draft anything. I said Bateman, cuz I'm kind of enamored with his size/route running.
I have watched some Radunz film. Body and athletically he reminds me of Tretter or maybe a young Wahle. More smooth than violent but they say he plays with a mean streak. He really understands leverage. If they believe Jenkins can be an elite RT (as I do) then Radunz could really shore up the line. The way he moves and understands leverage he would be awesome in a ZBS scheme. I don't think he can play tackle in the NFL with his frame. He lacks the raw size and punch. But elite guards play with great leverage and movement. He has that.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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I’d take Newsome or Bateman, but I think they’ll be gone. I think they’ll go OT. Mainly, because end of the 1st seems to be where need matches BPA. I don’t think Mayfield fits for what we want. More likely Radunz, Cosmi, maybe Jenkins. Somebody more athletic than Mayfield.
I think Radunz can play OT. He’s about the same size as Bakh coming out, a little better athlete, not quite as strong but close. Bakh wasn’t a finished product coming out and has gotten stronger. A lot of guys tried bull rushing him at the Senior Bowl and he held his own (practice player of the week). He’s tenacious, plays with good leverage, weaker on top but has a good base, and he mirrored pretty well. I see a versatile guy (aka Jenkins, Turner).Last edited by HarveyWallbangers; 03-31-2021, 11:45 AM."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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I clicked on Newsome, but I tend to agree about the injury worries. I'd rather have Asante Samuel Jr., but we might need to trade up for Newsome and even more so for Samuel or somebody else. I wouldn't mind that, though, if we got somebody who could be plugged in right away as a quality starter at Corner.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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I think your analysis of Eichenberg is about right. Most people have him as more of a 2nd round pick, although I don't know he'd still be available when the Packers pick in the 2nd round.Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View PostI like the left tackle from Notre Dame. They tend to make pretty good linemen there. He seems like he could be the next Bryan Bulaga no problem. Maybe not LT athleticism but it sounds like he could be a very good RT. I know nothing about the guy beyond what I've read, though.I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Agree here and so I selected "Other", thinking that Tyson Campbell, CB, Georgia would be a good alternative. They are about the same size, same 40 time, Campbell has less injury history. Campbell might be moving up so not sure if he is there.Originally posted by cheesner View PostNewsome's injury history worries me. Generally a player in college who is often injured is not going to suddenly become durable in the pros. Going against players who are faster and bigger in the NFL, injuries become more frequent.
Most of the alternatives are good so I would not trade up or down. They can get a good player without moving. If Campbell is not there then Radunz does look like a good fit.
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Yeah, I'm with you on Tyson Campbell. His teammate, Stokes is pretty good as well, but not sure I would take him at 29. The one I am hoping for is Caleb Farley. How far does his back surgery drop him and can he recover completely? May be an option.
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I didn't know about Farley's injury. That must be why I've seen quite a variance in terms of how early he'll be drafted. Draft Network has him listed 7th overall, but one of their guys didn't have him going until pick 37 in a mock draft.Originally posted by cheesner View PostYeah, I'm with you on Tyson Campbell. His teammate, Stokes is pretty good as well, but not sure I would take him at 29. The one I am hoping for is Caleb Farley. How far does his back surgery drop him and can he recover completely? May be an option.I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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He is the type that tend to do well in the NFL. Consistent, smart, technically sound, etc.... Most of our good lineman have been that type of player. And yeah, OL does seem to be one of those spots that certain schools train up better than others. Most guys who start right away come from a couple handful of OL factories.Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View PostI like the left tackle from Notre Dame. They tend to make pretty good linemen there. He seems like he could be the next Bryan Bulaga no problem. Maybe not LT athleticism but it sounds like he could be a very good RT. I know nothing about the guy beyond what I've read, though.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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We really need all five spots in my opinion. And this is a pretty good draft for all five (DL is floating under the radar because it's weak at tpp).Originally posted by RashanGary View Post3 votes OT
3 votes LB
3 corner
2 WR
2 DT
We’re all over the place this year. Rare deep ILB class, good OL class, good wr class. I’m guessing one of those three spots will be it, just because BPA is more likely to be one of the deep positions.
Our needs are DL, OT, CB then LB & WR. Of course, an impact DL is always the hardest spot to fill when you draft low. I have two or three I like with Barmore at top now.
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