AR wants out?!

[RashanGary]

I'm 50. I'm divorced. I find this shit interesting--with little stress. It feels good to sit around, drink beer all night, not stress about this or anything else, bone my GF tomorrow.

(Kids are at their Mom's this week.)

Perspective. 15 years ago this was drama. Now.... drink a beer and watch the show

[woodbuck27]

Now, reports are that the Packers have no interest in trading ARod. And I'm actually disappointed.

Where there's smoke there's fire.

It sure appears he wants out; yet that also makes little sense to me.

[Upnorth]

Perspective. 15 years ago this was drama. Now.... drink a beer and watch the show

I hope brandon didn't have a stroke

[HarveyWallbangers]

I will say that the beers are going down fast tonight.

[woodbuck27]

Only takes a crisis for you to post woodbucks. Good to see your still alive.

I'm still kicking Upnorth.

Think of me as ' a Fireman'. ....hahahaaha.

I'm still very much 'the Packer Fan'. Been that way now for over 60 years.

[wist43]

I'm 50. I'm divorced. I find this shit interesting--with little stress. It feels good to sit around, drink beer all night, not stress about this or anything else, bone my GF tomorrow.

(Kids are at their Mom's this week.)

Well, at least you can admit you're a drunken slut

[woodbuck27]

Perspective. 15 years ago this was drama. Now.... drink a beer and watch the show

I'll take that suggestion right now.....thanks.

[The Shadow]

No trade. Sit tight. Call the bluff.
I'd rather he decides to just walk away ( which I don't think he will) than return.
he walks? We have a lot of new cap room.
He stays? We remain competitive.

[red]

No trade. Sit tight. Call the bluff.
I'd rather he decides to just walk away ( which I don't think he will) than return.
he walks? We have a lot of new cap room.
He stays? We remain competitive.

if he decides to retire we take a massive cap hit. the same as if he was traded. we would gain a little under 6 million in cap space

[Teamcheez1]

if he decides to retire we take a massive cap hit. the same as if he was traded. we would gain a little under 6 million in cap space

If he retires we owe him nothing and he has to pay back a portion of his earlier bonuses. There would be no cap hit.

[red]

If he retires we owe him nothing and he has to pay back a portion of his earlier bonuses. There would be no cap hit.

wrong

dead money does not go away

right now, rodgers either has 38.5 million in dead money, or 31.3 million

that will never just vanish

[King Friday]

Rodgers isn't going anywhere. He's under contract. You think he's going to hold out? I'm sure many of his endorsements are somewhat conditional on him being an active player in the league. They aren't interested in a pitchman who is holding out. The news today was a desperate ploy by the Rodgers team to push on Gute, but I doubt he folds.

[beveaux1]

This entire drama is not really surprising. If you look at it from Rodgers' perspective, he has always said that he wanted to play until he was 40, at the least.
Before the last draft, he said he wanted to retire with the Packers. He had next to no talent at the WR position before last year's draft, but made no public statements about the problem.

He used his position in the draft as something to motivate him to greatness. His drive has always been about making the rest of the NFL pay for his humiliation on draft day.
He never considered that the Packers would pick his replacement four years before his earliest retirement date.

From Gutekunst's perspective, Rodgers had at least 4 consecutive off years. He's running the Packers as a business. When a talented QB drops close to his position in the draft, he pulls the trigger.
He probably figures that it will either motivate Rodgers and he keeps him through most of his existing contract or allow him to change QBs in a couple of years with little or no cap consequences.

Rodgers, on the other hand, sees this as the ultimate betrayal. He does use it as motivation. He plays at the level he played 5 years ago, maybe better, and comes very close to playing in a Super Bowl.
By doing this, the power has completely shifted to him instead of the team. He wasn't about to re-work his contract. It was his intention to make the Packers pay for the way they treated him.
I think that's why he dragged out the "renegotiation" until just before the draft. That's why he waited until Gutekunst gave his press conference saying that Rodgers would be a Packer for the foreseeable future.

He had his "people" drop the bombshell about not playing for the Packers again hours before the draft, when it would have maximum impact. By making that statement, the Packers will very likely get less of a haul in a trade.
This was well thought out and intentional. I don't think the Packers expected it and I really don't think he'll play for the Packers again. Next move Gutekunst.

[red]

This entire drama is not really surprising. If you look at it from Rodgers' perspective, he has always said that he wanted to play until he was 40, at the least.
Before the last draft, he said he wanted to retire with the Packers. He had next to no talent at the WR position before last year's draft, but made no public statements about the problem.

He used his position in the draft as something to motivate him to greatness. His drive has always been about making the rest of the NFL pay for his humiliation on draft day.
He never considered that the Packers would pick his replacement four years before his earliest retirement date.

From Gutekunst's perspective, Rodgers had at least 4 consecutive off years. He's running the Packers as a business. When a talented QB drops close to his position in the draft, he pulls the trigger.
He probably figures that it will either motivate Rodgers and he keeps him through most of his existing contract or allow him to change QBs in a couple of years with little or no cap consequences.

Rodgers, on the other hand, sees this as the ultimate betrayal. He does use it as motivation. He plays at the level he played 5 years ago, maybe better, and comes very close to playing in a Super Bowl.
By doing this, the power has completely shifted to him instead of the team. He wasn't about to re-work his contract. It was his intention to make the Packers pay for the way they treated him.
I think that's why he dragged out the "renegotiation" until just before the draft. That's why he waited until Gutekunst gave his press conference saying that Rodgers would be a Packer for the foreseeable future.

He had his "people" drop the bombshell about not playing for the Packers again hours before the draft, when it would have maximum impact. By making that statement, the Packers will very likely get less of a haul in a trade.
This was well thought out and intentional. I don't think the Packers expected it and I really don't think he'll play for the Packers again. Next move Gutekunst.

if he is really this mad where his people are putting all this out, then it would make since that he wold put the packers in a box and force them to trade him for next to nothing

he would want his new team to keep all the draft capital they can to make his new team better

[scharpcheddar]

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