AR wants out?!

[texaspackerbacker]

After making about the only sensible post in this whole thread, KF, other than mine, now you're backtracking to parrot the idiotic shit too?

There's no evidence Rodgers does not want to negotiate an extension (media shit is not evidence). The leadership of the team does not "hold most of the cards" - unless they don't care about losing (and even I wouldn't accuse them of being that despicable - just of gross stupidity). For all practical purposes, Rodgers can't be traded. If Gutekunst doesn't get a deal done - presumably pretty much on Rodgers terms (meaning a long term extension), then he deserves to get the same treatment Dan Devine's dog got (yes, I mean literally).

Let me throw a bone to the fools in here who are so convinced the Packers need to idiotically alienate and get rid of Rodgers: How many more years is Love under contract? Presumably 4? (he was a first round pick, so it should have been 5 years originally.) Crafting a deal to keep Rodgers 1, maybe 2 years beyond Love's rookie contract makes infinite sense. Love is cheap for those years. If he seems worth it by then, he could be signed long term with a significant bonus and low first and maybe second year cap number. That would guarantee excellence with Rodgers as QB through '25, maybe '26. If Love does not prove himself by then, we could re-up Rodgers even further (I'm pretty sure he will be good even beyond that age) or go in any number of other directions.

OK, you panicky negativist fools, why would not that be the best possible outcome?

[sharpe1027]

It's a good thing the media is never wrong, and everyone getting all bent out of shape over this thinks main stream media is where it is at.

[King Friday]

Rodgers is a diva, Tex. He saw how Tom Brady was treated by Tampa and he thinks he deserves the same, despite the now 6 Super Bowl ring deficit. This isn't fake news. He expects the organization to bend over backwards for him.

I completely believe the selection of Love was a stupid move by Gute. If he wanted to take Love, his only choice was to stand pat and hope he fell... Just as Thompson did with Rodgers. By trading up, you disrespect Rodgers, who still had 3-4 good years left in the tank. If you stand pat, it is far easier to make the claim that you just couldn't pass up the opportunity. By trading up, you are now specifically targeting that guy...and it sends the message that you expect to use him soon. Otherwise, why trade up?

Compound that with the fact that the team was a title contender and you took a player who would have no real value to making that push in the next 2-3 years, and it isn't hard to see why Rodgers is pissed. Yeah, to us he should get over it, but dominant athletes are dominant because they DON'T get over it. They constantly use the things the rest of us get over with to fuel their drive to be elite.

[Joemailman]

FWIW, Gute did talk about the subject last night.

Gutekunst, a fourth-year general manager, denied that the Packers ever told Rodgers they would trade him and reiterated that they have no plans to do that.

"We're not going to trade Aaron Rodgers," he said.

Gutekunst said he did not speak with San Francisco 49ers general manager John Lynch on Thursday about a deal for Rodgers. Lynch told reporters Thursday that the 49ers "inquired" about Rodgers, but he did not say when that took place and added, "It was a quick end to the conversation; it wasn't happening."

Gutekunst said it wasn't like the phones were ringing off the hook at Lambeau Field after the news of Rodgers' unhappiness broke.

"Sometime after 5 o'clock, after a lot of the stuff had kind of hit the airwaves, I got I think one call," Gutekunst said. "It was very brief, and that was it."

Earlier this offseason, the Los Angeles Rams reportedly called to inquire about Rodgers' availability via trade before they dealt for Matthew Stafford.

"I'm not gonna confirm that," Rams GM Les Snead said Thursday. "But I don't think he was ever available."

[Spaulding]

Rodgers is a diva, Tex. He saw how Tom Brady was treated by Tampa and he thinks he deserves the same, despite the now 6 Super Bowl ring deficit. This isn't fake news. He expects the organization to bend over backwards for him.

I completely believe the selection of Love was a stupid move by Gute. If he wanted to take Love, his only choice was to stand pat and hope he fell... Just as Thompson did with Rodgers. By trading up, you disrespect Rodgers, who still had 3-4 good years left in the tank. If you stand pat, it is far easier to make the claim that you just couldn't pass up the opportunity. By trading up, you are now specifically targeting that guy...and it sends the message that you expect to use him soon. Otherwise, why trade up?

Compound that with the fact that the team was a title contender and you took a player who would have no real value to making that push in the next 2-3 years, and it isn't hard to see why Rodgers is pissed. Yeah, to us he should get over it, but dominant athletes are dominant because they DON'T get over it. They constantly use the things the rest of us get over with to fuel their drive to be elite.

Excellent post. I don't believe all the lack of drafting a WR made AR unhappy as the team had other shortcomings and the offense the past two years wasn't the biggest problem. However I could see where trading up for a QB ruffled feathers.

If only AR looked at from a perspective of a GM where the board is god and if a very highly ranked player drops to within range of your pick (trading up a few spots and giving up a 4th for a player you had ranked in top 10 and still available at #26 would make sense even if not a position of need).

Would be something to have been privy to the Packers draft board from last year.

[Zool]

Excellent post. I don't believe all the lack of drafting a WR made AR unhappy as the team had other shortcomings and the offense the past two years wasn't the biggest problem. However I could see where trading up for a QB ruffled feathers.

If only AR looked at from a perspective of a GM where the board is god and if a very highly ranked player drops to within range of your pick (trading up a few spots and giving up a 4th for a player you had ranked in top 10 and still available at #26 would make sense even if not a position of need).

Would be something to have been privy to the Packers draft board from last year.

Historically good offense last year. I'd go as far as to say the offense wasn't a problem at all last year.

[Tony Oday]

AR is not going anywhere this year. Play good this year and the Pack trade him for a boatload of picks to set us up for the next decade.

[Spaulding]

Who knows, if the team achieves another great year and the Packers remain close, why would he want to go elsewhere unless the team is also on the cusp. None of the teams he listed (49ers, Raiders, Broncos) were in a better position than the Packers to win it all. The 49ers play in the arguably toughest division, the Raiders are the Raiders and the Broncos would be second fiddle to the Chiefs even with Rodgers.

For a guy with a constant chip on his shoulder since community college and expecting excellence, it would be a tough pill to lessen his chance at another ring. Then again maybe pending marriage and thoughts of life after football trump things.

[bobblehead]

mangement seems to be all over the place too

be nice to see our war room to see if we're on the phones at all

I'm going to disagree with you red. Management has never waivered on Arod being the man. I have never heard Arod saying he does NOT want to be the man. Not one time. I've only seen "anonymous sources"

[Packers4Glory]

Some of you don’t get it. Love was just the tip of the iceberg

1 game from a super bowl they trade a 1st & 4 for love. Draft a RB in 2nd. Then in the 3rd a shitty H-back TE. Makes sense to someone.

Dillon only made sense if you’re planning on letting Jones leave after last year... which they didn’t. This isn’t about Rodgers being a diva. It’s about a boneheaded organization that has no idea what direction is going. You were firmly in the super bowl window &
Didn’t do anything to address needs on either side of the ball.

Couple that with the previous year when they spent a 1st on Gary after spending a buttload of FA money at the position. Gary was a project that everyone knew needed time to develop. That’s not a move a team in the twilight of rodgers career makes. It’s absurd & no logical person can refute or defend those drafts.

Its just ineptitude at every level if roster building.

[bobblehead]

Anyone defending Gute & Murphy who ultimately is in charge is a fuckn tool.

Back to back 13 win seasons resulting in NFCC games. I'm not a huge gutes fan, but I like to speak rationally and this kind of hyperbole makes me chuckle.

[bobblehead]

I don’t think you can. Unless both sides come out and say it is BS.

You got to think ARod is a Packer for 1 more year at most at this point.

What if they win an owl. Is the love pick really so bad if he shows some promise, and is a great backup for a 38 year old QB? I could see Rodgers playing 5 more years all in GB to be honest. I'm not even as convinced he is nearly as butthurt as they are claiming....of course a new diva girlfriend does bring out the worst in people.

[Jaire]

I'm going to disagree with you red. Management has never waivered on Arod being the man. I have never heard Arod saying he does NOT want to be the man. Not one time. I've only seen "anonymous sources"

Agreed

All smoke and headlines.

We have a good first pick and a lot of interesting players the next few rounds. First pick could really change the complection of the D already.

[Packers4Glory]

Also the packets confirmed they tried to restructure his deal. Then when that wasn’t successful they tried offering him the extension he was seeking & he said no to that. No word on why he said no. Was it he’s done with them or was he not happy with the terms?

[Packers4Glory]

Back to back 13 win seasons resulting in NFCC games. I'm not a huge gutes fan, but I like to speak rationally and this kind of hyperbole makes me chuckle.

How many wins does that team get without Ridgers? lol yeah. Speak rationally? How about be a bit smarter to look past win/loss numbers. The simplicity of your rationale makes me chuckle