AR wants out?!

[Jaire]

As to Jones, a lot of that decision was about the locker room. Jones makes the whole team better. They have two backs which is much more important to Lafleurs game than number one receivers. I'm not going to worry about the number one offense losing too much. And I have my eye on the Iowa kid in round three to help out there and on special teams. Otherwise a couple tackles would be nice.

[bobblehead]

FWIW, Gute did talk about the subject last night.

Gutekunst, a fourth-year general manager, denied that the Packers ever told Rodgers they would trade him and reiterated that they have no plans to do that.

"We're not going to trade Aaron Rodgers," he said.

Gutekunst said he did not speak with San Francisco 49ers general manager John Lynch on Thursday about a deal for Rodgers. Lynch told reporters Thursday that the 49ers "inquired" about Rodgers, but he did not say when that took place and added, "It was a quick end to the conversation; it wasn't happening."

Gutekunst said it wasn't like the phones were ringing off the hook at Lambeau Field after the news of Rodgers' unhappiness broke.

"Sometime after 5 o'clock, after a lot of the stuff had kind of hit the airwaves, I got I think one call," Gutekunst said. "It was very brief, and that was it."

Earlier this offseason, the Los Angeles Rams reportedly called to inquire about Rodgers' availability via trade before they dealt for Matthew Stafford.

"I'm not gonna confirm that," Rams GM Les Snead said Thursday. "But I don't think he was ever available."

This sums it up for me. The media makes shit up nowdays. No way was a deal to denver "almost a done deal". No way Gutes ever gave serious consideration to trading Rodgers after going all in like we are. No way Gutes is trading Rodgers with 3 years left on his deal. And if Rodgers really thinks he isn't helped enough after an historic MVP season well.....

[Packers4Glory]

Agreed

All smoke and headlines.

We have a good first pick and a lot of interesting players the next few rounds. First pick could really change the complection of the D already.

What?!? What they say & what they have done are completely opposite!

Traded up to draft his replacement knowing full well in year 3 they can move on from ARod if they want. That 2020 draft was a huge signal of what they were planning. How is this even a bone of contention? Of course they’re going to say Aaron is their guy. Especially after he threw a wrench into the plan with a dominant MVP season.

[bobblehead]

AR is not going anywhere this year. Play good this year and the Pack trade him for a boatload of picks to set us up for the next decade.

Or play good this year, get extended and win a couple late career rings. Its not out of the question.

[George Cumby]

I still contend the Love pick was not a bad pick. It may turn out to be, but we won't know for two to three years.

Rodgers was consistently injured for two or three seasons before Love was drafted. Remember the 2019 season? Despite the 13-3 record, Rodgers was OFF, there was something wrong with him.

If I was the GM, I'd be looking at that fact pattern: 36 y/o QB, oft injured, skills appear to be in decline; he could fall off the cliff at any moment. I'd be drafting a talented replacement too.

Rodgers roaring back in 2020 was far from a sure thing.

[Packers4Glory]

As to Jones, a lot of that decision was about the locker room. Jones makes the whole team better. They have two backs which is much more important to Lafleurs game than number one receivers. I'm not going to worry about the number one offense losing too much. And I have my eye on the Iowa kid in round three to help out there and on special teams. Otherwise a couple tackles would be nice.

Then why draft Dillon with a 2nd? You don’t spend that kind of pick on a RB when you can find guys later or UDFA? Dillon was a reach at 2 as it was.

[bobblehead]

Some of you don’t get it. Love was just the tip of the iceberg

1 game from a super bowl they trade a 1st & 4 for love. Draft a RB in 2nd. Then in the 3rd a shitty H-back TE. Makes sense to someone.

Dillon only made sense if you’re planning on letting Jones leave after last year... which they didn’t. This isn’t about Rodgers being a diva. It’s about a boneheaded organization that has no idea what direction is going. You were firmly in the super bowl window &
Didn’t do anything to address needs on either side of the ball.

Couple that with the previous year when they spent a 1st on Gary after spending a buttload of FA money at the position. Gary was a project that everyone knew needed time to develop. That’s not a move a team in the twilight of rodgers career makes. It’s absurd & no logical person can refute or defend those drafts.

Its just ineptitude at every level if roster building.

You say shitty HBack, Flower says swiss army knife. I'll take his acumen on running an offense over yours. Dillon? The one area we lacked was short yardage success in 2019...great pick.

Boneheaded organization that has been to back to back NFCC games and is near the top of the league in wins going back over 2 decades.....fuck ups.

[beveaux1]

“We have a very good football team here,” Gutekunst said, . “And we have a great organization. We’re very committed to him. I think as the lines of communications have been open, I’m just optimistic that’s what’s best for the Green Bay Packers, and I truly believe that’s what’s best for Aaron Rodgers as well.”

“I certainly look back to last year’s draft,” Gutekunst said Thursday, “and just kind of maybe some of the communication issues we could have done better. There’s no doubt about it. The draft is an interesting thing. It can kind of unfold differently than you think it’s going to unfold, and it happens pretty fast. But certainly looking back on it, certainly where we sit today, there could have been some communication things that we did better.”

Rodgers is a very cerebral guy. He's very measured in what he says to the press and he has always been cautious about what's been released to the press.
After last year's draft, opinion pieces were written about the effect the drafting of Love would have on Rodgers, but those stories died on the vine because of the muted responses by Rodgers and his "people".
This is different. I don't believe it was an accident that this news dropped. I don't believe it was "fake news", although some of the stories branching from his "peoples" announcement about not playing for the Packers again are fake.
Gutekunst as much as acknowledged the rift in his press conference Thursday night.

I've been hearing that he doesn't have leverage to demand a trade. I think he has all the leverage in the world. He can retire. He can hold out. Rodgers doesn't need the money. By dropping this story, the Packers are on notice.
My opinion is that he has played his last down with this team. He dropped this story after telling the team he was through with them.
He's leaving on his terms. Gutekunst would like to get at least one more year out of him to allow the cap figure to stabilize and for Love to be closer to ready.
Rodgers says he's leaving now, you pick the way I go. Trade or ****storm. Your move Gutekunst.

[bobblehead]

How many wins does that team get without Ridgers? lol yeah. Speak rationally? How about be a bit smarter to look past win/loss numbers. The simplicity of your rationale makes me chuckle

How many wins does any team get with a backup QB. Ask a serious question.

[bobblehead]

What?!? What they say & what they have done are completely opposite!

Traded up to draft his replacement knowing full well in year 3 they can move on from ARod if they want. That 2020 draft was a huge signal of what they were planning. How is this even a bone of contention? Of course they’re going to say Aaron is their guy. Especially after he threw a wrench into the plan with a dominant MVP season.

Or trade up so we can go 3-3 if he misses 6 games and get him back for the playoffs? Maybe Gutes didn't want to experience the Todd Hundley thing. Maybe instead of missing the playoffs with Rodgers healthy in week 16 he wanted to still be in it.

[Packers4Glory]

How many wins does any team get with a backup QB. Ask a serious question.

Ok. How many wins with Goff? Prescott? Cousins? My guess 9 & they’re not in a title game. Very few starting QB’s win with the inconsistency around our WR corp. better?

[Jaire]

They did not move up for Love imo. They moved up for a WR. The draft did not fall for them and they got jumped. Love was their high board. It might have been a back up plan. They do not make that pick again in retrospect. That's just how I see it. They also tried moving for a WR in round two. It wasn't a good draft class last year.

Stokes was one of their guys this year. So I am happy so far. When you draft low, it is a lot harder.

[bobblehead]

“We have a very good football team here,” Gutekunst said, . “And we have a great organization. We’re very committed to him. I think as the lines of communications have been open, I’m just optimistic that’s what’s best for the Green Bay Packers, and I truly believe that’s what’s best for Aaron Rodgers as well.”

“I certainly look back to last year’s draft,” Gutekunst said Thursday, “and just kind of maybe some of the communication issues we could have done better. There’s no doubt about it. The draft is an interesting thing. It can kind of unfold differently than you think it’s going to unfold, and it happens pretty fast. But certainly looking back on it, certainly where we sit today, there could have been some communication things that we did better.”

Rodgers is a very cerebral guy. He's very measured in what he says to the press and he has always been cautious about what's been released to the press.
After last year's draft, opinion pieces were written about the effect the drafting of Love would have on Rodgers, but those stories died on the vine because of the muted responses by Rodgers and his "people".
This is different. I don't believe it was an accident that this news dropped. I don't believe it was "fake news", although some of the stories branching from his "peoples" announcement about not playing for the Packers again are fake.
Gutekunst as much as acknowledged the rift in his press conference Thursday night.

I've been hearing that he doesn't have leverage to demand a trade. I think he has all the leverage in the world. He can retire. He can hold out. Rodgers doesn't need the money. By dropping this story, the Packers are on notice.
My opinion is that he has played his last down with this team. He dropped this story after telling the team he was through with them.
He's leaving on his terms. Gutekunst would like to get at least one more year out of him to allow the cap figure to stabilize and for Love to be closer to ready.
Rodgers says he's leaving now, you pick the way I go. Trade or ****storm. Your move Gutekunst.

Favre chose shitstorm. He never won another ring. GB won one a couple years later. Shitstorm is not really a thing other than to the media.

[bobblehead]

Ok. How many wins with Goff? Prescott? Cousins? My guess 9 & they’re not in a title game. Very few starting QB’s win with the inconsistency around our WR corp. better?

Guess? We are guessing now? I think we get 10 wins with Blake Bortles. I think we get 10 wins with any of the guys you mentioned. I think we would certainly be worse, duh...

However, I am a fan of Rodgers talent. I want him back. He is elite. he isn't the entire 53 man roster though. He didn't pick off Brady 3 times, he is the guy who failed to take advantage of it.

[bobblehead]

They did not move up for Love imo. They moved up for a WR. The draft did not fall for them and they got jumped. Love was their high board. It might have been a back up plan. They do not make that pick again in retrospect. That's just how I see it. They also tried moving for a WR in round two. It wasn't a good draft class last year.

Stokes was one of their guys this year. So I am happy so far. When you draft low, it is a lot harder.

They did NOT move up and go "oops, what do we do now...ah hell, lets just take a QB"