AR wants out?!

[sharpe1027]

I guess I would just say that I don't understand the situation here.

If the Packers truly do intend for Rodgers to be here indefinitely and thought that after last season - then why the hell did they draft Love? The odds of flipping him for multiple first round picks is extremely low. Two second round picks in the future would be equivalent value to the #1 they used to draft him. Anyone with a high pick that needs a QB isn't going to give up a high number 1 to get Love, they'll just draft someone that is younger and under control for cheap for longer. Basically, there is no scenario where the "flip" makes sense for a value option.

If they intended for Love to be the QB of the future, that means they did not intend for Rodgers to be that guy.

Players want to play. Yes, Aaron sat for three years and apparently that was a very contentious thing. It is also a very different time now. I think best case that plan was for Love to sit two years.

The Jordan Love pick was foolish in virtually every way. There was an extremely low level of upside relative to the downside. We're seeing that manifest itself right now. The odds of this dude being a star QB like the the dude in Baltimore picked at the bottom of R1 is extremely, extremely low. Very rarely does a QB drafted this low become a franchise QB.

Because he was a good value on their board.

[beveaux1]

I guess I would just say that I don't understand the situation here.

If the Packers truly do intend for Rodgers to be here indefinitely and thought that after last season - then why the hell did they draft Love? The odds of flipping him for multiple first round picks is extremely low. Two second round picks in the future would be equivalent value to the #1 they used to draft him. Anyone with a high pick that needs a QB isn't going to give up a high number 1 to get Love, they'll just draft someone that is younger and under control for cheap for longer. Basically, there is no scenario where the "flip" makes sense for a value option.

If they intended for Love to be the QB of the future, that means they did not intend for Rodgers to be that guy.

Players want to play. Yes, Aaron sat for three years and apparently that was a very contentious thing. It is also a very different time now. I think best case that plan was for Love to sit two years.

The Jordan Love pick was foolish in virtually every way. There was an extremely low level of upside relative to the downside. We're seeing that manifest itself right now. The odds of this dude being a star QB like the the dude in Baltimore picked at the bottom of R1 is extremely, extremely low. Very rarely does a QB drafted this low become a franchise QB.

I agree with what you're saying, but in fairly recent Packer history, Favre was drafted at the top of the 2nd round and Rodgers was drafted at the end of the first.
The odds of Rodgers turning it around a at 37 and becoming MVP after 4 relatively poor seasons was low and the GMs job is to make a tough decision and ensure the succession at the most necessary position.

[call_me_ishmael]

Because he was a good value on their board.

I am deeply skeptical of that, though. I question what the plan was and have never heard anyone articulate a plan that makes sense.

[sharpe1027]

I am deeply skeptical of that, though. I question what the plan was and have never heard anyone articulate a plan that makes sense.

Really? You think he wasn't high on their board and they reached just because he was a QB and they had some master plan to push Rodgers out. I guess.

[HarveyWallbangers]

The Packers should have taken the Broncos deal and drafted Justin Fields.

[call_me_ishmael]

The Packers should have taken the Broncos deal and drafted Justin Fields.

100% agreed. I _really_ like Justin Fields.

[Rutnstrut]

What a shit show. Either the ghost of TT is running things, or Rodgers is a whiny bitch. I'm going with a bit of both with most emphasis on AR being a whiny bitch.

[call_me_ishmael]

Really? You think he wasn't high on their board and they reached just because he was a QB and they had some master plan to push Rodgers out. I guess.

I think they thought he was a pretty good QB prospect and they needed to do something in case Aaron reverted to Aaron of 2017-2019.

Simply playing the odds, the odds of him ever being a top 10 QB in the league are extremely low relative to where he was drafted.

[call_me_ishmael]

https://twitter.com/MikeSilver/status/1388176047351517187

1) Some things to understand about the Packers' organization: It is a far less collaborative environment than most NFL buildings. There's a separation between business, football operations/management & coaching. Big personnel decisions are made with very little coaching input...

2) The degeneration of the relationship between Rodgers and the team, including the drafting of Jordan Love a year ago and what has followed, essentially happened outside the purview of Matt LaFleur and his staff. Yet it's something that he, as a head coach, has to deal with...

3) The last three months--since the team's NFC championship game defeat to the Bucs--haven't been easy for LaFleur to navigate. He and his assistants are all in on Rodgers and want to continue what they've built over the last two seasons. It's not up to them.

Sounds like the new org structure isn't exactly functional. Hubris.

[Packers4Glory]

I think they thought he was a pretty good QB prospect and they needed to do something in case Aaron reverted to Aaron of 2017-2019.

Simply playing the odds, the odds of him ever being a top 10 QB in the league are extremely low relative to where he was drafted.

what? Rodgers was pretty good with a shit cast and a highly predictable offense. If you're getting Rodgers from 18 and 19 you're a super bowl contender lol how could they ever win with 2018 rodgers and his shitty 25 TD and 2 INT season or the 2019 26 TD and 4 INT season

unsurprisingly add in a threat at TE in 2020 and he goes off completely. or the fact 2019 Adams missed time and wasn't as effective so when he was out Rodgers had probably the worst receiving corp in football.

there is absolutely zero defense for drafting Love. none. even if they moved up to grab a WR that the niners took, they needed a better plan B in case that option was removed.

you were in the NFC title game. Go out and improve your weaknesses with guys who can immediately have a chance to make an impact. not for 3 years down the road.

[King Friday]

I don't think the org is a huge problem. It's pretty much status quo to what it has been throughout Rodgers career. The issue is the lack of commitment to winning now...as, again, Rodgers sees what Tampa is doing for Tom Brady and is extremely envious.

[bobblehead]

I've heard nobody say this years WR class is better.

I have. The GMs for the Bengals, Dolphins, and Eagles who took 3 WR in top 10. Last year we had zero. Total of 5 WR went in round one both years. So through actions I have seen the GMs in the NFL say this class is better.

[texaspackerbacker]

Also the packets confirmed they tried to restructure his deal. Then when that wasn’t successful they tried offering him the extension he was seeking & he said no to that. No word on why he said no. Was it he’s done with them or was he not happy with the terms?

Did the team confirm offering the extension Rodgers was seeking? Or is that just some media puke saying so? I think it's the latter.

How many wins without Rodgers? This year I would guess 3-5. With higher draft picks, it would get up to maybe 7-9 or 10, but no more than that for the foreseeable future - and I mean at least a decade ...... but as I said, R-E-L-A-X, that's not the way it's going down. They'll still get the job done and extend him at least to the end of Love's rookie contract plus a year or two.

As horrendously stupid as last year's draft was, I'm not ready to completely abel Gutekunst and his gang as boneheaded yet. Previous to that draft and in free agency, they were ok, and they're seemingly off to a good start this draft. And of course, there is the back to back 13-3, which Rodgers gets far more credit for than the organization.

As for getting "set up for a decade" with a "boatload of draft picks", I doubt it. This isn't the NBA like with the Alcindor/Kareem trade. You have 22 starters instead of 5, among many other reasons.

Does Rodgers see how Brady was treated and want some of that? Maybe, but he's never said it, he's just done his job at a level second to none, so maybe he deserves a little more consideration - from the organization and from panicky fans ready to jump ship at the least excuse, not even a proven excuse.

[texaspackerbacker]

Favre chose shitstorm. He never won another ring. GB won one a couple years later. Shitstorm is not really a thing other than to the media.

When Favre left, he was a helluva lot closer to over the hill than Rodgers is ...... or IMO, than Rodgers will be even 4 or 5 years from now.

[Sparkey]

I have. The GMs for the Bengals, Dolphins, and Eagles who took 3 WR in top 10. Last year we had zero. Total of 5 WR went in round one both years. So through actions I have seen the GMs in the NFL say this class is better.

But that does not mean that this years wr class is better than last years. It might mean that, but it could also mean that the relative talent at other positions is less, thereby lifting more receivers to the top this years board. Three years from now, the debate about which class was better will be answered.