AR wants out?!

[bobblehead]

I will say this. At this point, all reports are largely true (not exactly, but the rift is fact).

If that were not the case, Gutes wouldn't be saying the things he has been and Rodgers would have tweeted out his intent to play for the packers in 2021. Since Rodgers has been silent in all of this, he endorses it in general whether its all exact or not.

[Packers4Glory]

But that does not mean that this years wr class is better than last years. It might mean that, but it could also mean that the relative talent at other positions is less, thereby lifting more receivers to the top this years board. Three years from now, the debate about which class was better will be answered.

last years class was DEEP. Teams could wait longer to grab a guy

[bobblehead]

last years class was DEEP. Teams could wait longer to grab a guy

Lets see how round 2 and 3 play out. I'm gonna say false.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Mike Silver parrots whatever message Aaron Rodgers wants to put out there. I have no interest in his take on things.

[bobblehead]

But that does not mean that this years wr class is better than last years. It might mean that, but it could also mean that the relative talent at other positions is less, thereby lifting more receivers to the top this years board. Three years from now, the debate about which class was better will be answered.

Guys don't pick players at 5/6 and 10 because there aren't other good players at the position. Hmmm....there just aren't any DL in this draft so lets draft Lancaster at 7. Yea, thats how they think.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Rodgers saw this as his chance to get to his 49ers. It didn't work. Now, he'll have to stick his tail between his legs and play for the Packers OR he'll retire (maybe he'll get offered the Jeopardy).

I would have traded him. His trade value will only go down from here. The Packers would have been set up very nicely for the future (and Fields was sitting there for them to take). I wouldn't put it past Rodgers to retire because he's a notorious grudge holder (which is probably why none of his relationships ever last).

[bobblehead]

Rodgers saw this as his chance to get to his 49ers. It didn't work. Now, he'll have to stick his tail between his legs and play for the Packers OR he'll retire (maybe he'll get offered the Jeopardy.

I would have traded him. His trade value will only go down from here. The Packers would have been set up very nicely for the future (and Fields was sitting there for them to take). I wouldn't put it past Rodgers to retire because he's a notorious grudge holder (which is probably why none of his relationships never last).

If Denver offered 9, Jeudy 2021 2nd and 2022 first or second I would have considered it. Short of that, no.

[HarveyWallbangers]

If Denver offered 9, Jeudy 2021 2nd and 2022 first or second I would have considered it. Short of that, no.

I would have done 3 firsts and 1 2nd. I don't think the Broncos would have offered Jeudy because they'd need all of the weapons they can get for Rodgers.

It sounds like they didn't even get to a point where Denver made an offer, so that's probably all conjecture.

[HarveyWallbangers]

These national writers can be so ridiculous (Silver and this guy Rosenthal near the top):

https://www.nfl.com/news/2021-nfl-draft-day-1-winners-losers-49ers-up-justin-fields-down

If it takes making Rodgers the richest player in the game, trading away 2020 first-round pick Jordan Love or even changing GMs, then the Packers should do it.

[call_me_ishmael]

These national writers can be so ridiculous (Silver and this guy Rosenthal near the top):

https://www.nfl.com/news/2021-nfl-dr...in-fields-down

Dunno about Gooter, but with how close they are to the super bowl and how unlikely that is to happen post Rodgers, I don't think the national writers are off-base here.

What % do you give the Packers to win a Super Bowl in the ten years post ARod? I put it at 5%.

[texaspackerbacker]

This is one media guy I will avoid calling a media puke. Hell yeah, the Packers should do those things - whatever is necessary. I doubt Rodgers is demanding Gutekunst get fired or Love gets traded, though.

[Sparkey]

Guys don't pick players at 5/6 and 10 because there aren't other good players at the position. Hmmm....there just aren't any DL in this draft so lets draft Lancaster at 7. Yea, thats how they think.

That's not what I said. I said, if there was a reggie white, namdakong suh and a warren sapp in this draft there more than likely would have been fewer wr drafted in rd 1 because each of those dlineman would have been picked.

It's the reason draft boards exist. Group guys from best to worst, in tiers, and then don't stray from the board. If there was more top tier dlineman, they push other players down these boards. Same with QB or CB, etc.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Dunno about Gooter, but with how close they are to the super bowl and how unlikely that is to happen post Rodgers, I don't think the national writers are off-base here.

What % do you give the Packers to win a Super Bowl in the ten years post ARod? I put it at 5%.

Tell me again. What does Rodgers have to be upset about? With every new contract he's gotten since the first, he's been given the highest salary in the NFL. Money shouldn't be an issue. He has a QB friendly coach that helped him to his 3rd MVP. The roster is Super Bowl contender worthy. Coach, system, teammates shouldn't be an issue. So, the Packers drafted a QB in the 1st round after 2-3 mediocre years from their 37-year-old, former MVP QB? Big friggin' deal! Suck it up, buttercup! Not a lot of situational awareness here either--since he was once in Love's shoes and it was proven the organization did the right thing drafting him. There are things I like about Rodgers. He's intelligent. He has a dry wit. Above all else, he's a great QB. However, he is also a narcissist with a giant chip on his shoulder--who seems to have a hard time getting over grudges. Kind of like the guy who preceded him.

[RashanGary]

That's not what I said. I said, if there was a reggie white, namdakong suh and a warren sapp in this draft there more than likely would have been fewer wr drafted in rd 1 because each of those dlineman would have been picked.

It's the reason draft boards exist. Group guys from best to worst, in tiers, and then don't stray from the board. If there was more top tier dlineman, they push other players down these boards. Same with QB or CB, etc.

I agree with what you said. No one seemed to be in a rush to draft OTs this year. Because there are like 12 guys who most people like who can be had later. WR, they got in early knowing there were fewer of them. Jamar Chase looks special though. He was gonna go high regardless.

[Packers4Glory]

Pass on fields. I’m having trouble remembering the last good ohio state or urban meyer college QB they didn’t suck at the next level