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  • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
    Yeah, I don’t view him that way. My heart measures him as one soul. Let's put it this way, I loved my retarded labrador more than I love Aaron Rodgers. I don't worship people. I love them. And I don't love 12 anymore than I do 33. In fact, frankly, I like 33 more.

    I'm talking about his skills and ability.

    It's not a love affair. You are comparing a team favorite part time RB to a 1st ballot HoFer at the most valuable position who just won MVP. Listen to yourself.

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    • Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
      Whatever. Rodgers is a grown man that signed a contract in exchange for a shit ton of money. He's got some responsibility here.
      It's not about money.

      He wants to win. See comments by Mercedes Lewis who actually gets it.

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      • I don't worship athletes. Sorry jail. He could be the indisputed GOAT and he's still just one person to me. I'd trade Rodgers for my grandpa back all damn day. He's a football player. Whoopity doo.
        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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        • Originally posted by Jaire View Post
          Bingo


          And AR is as about as easy to handle QB as you can have. FOs do.not.like.smart.people. Period. He just wants to win. They have treated him like shit. Fact. They have no clue. And they have no clue what they are giving up.
          They threw shit tons of money his way and never said a bad word about him, ever.

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          • Originally posted by Jaire View Post
            It's not about money.

            He wants to win. See comments by Mercedes Lewis who actually gets it.
            He's partly responsible for not showing up when it mattered. Time to look in the mirror.

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            • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
              Yeah, If Rodgers wants to be above the rest of the guys, I’m ok with whatever happens to him. One thing is certain, he will suffer more than anyone else if he drags this out.
              then trade him

              i'm i'm not saying that your choice. but if they player wants some control or input, and the team wants him to have none, then let him go try and find a team that will do that

              and he won't be hurt if this drags out. like i said earlier, everyone other then packer fans are saying this is totally the organizations fault for things getting his bad. only packer fans are gonna be upset with him, and he won't care because he won't play in green bay ever again

              i will add this about rodgers and all the bashing he's taken about him being a "diva". did we know until yesterday that he was gone with green bay, even though he's told teammates and mangement all offseason that he wants out? did he go on twitter to talk about how the team has promised to trade him, then change there mind until last night? did he go to any talk shows to talk about how management has been flying out to see him to change his mind? has he talked or bitched about all the contract negotiations that supposedly have been going one

              nope, he hasn't been talking or bitching about any of that until last night when he saw he had no other choice if he was gonna get out of here this year

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              • QBs are so important and Rodgers is so good, yet when the team loses a game it's all because of one first round pick, not the QB. The hypocrisy is comical.

                Look, I want Rodgers to stay. I think he's insanely good. One of the greatest of all time. But the bootlicking he can do now wrong attitude is something you'll never get from me. He signed a contract in exchange for committing to a bunch of extra years. Man up.

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                • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                  I don't worship athletes. Sorry jail. He could be the indisputed GOAT and he's still just one person to me. I'd trade Rodgers for my grandpa back all damn day. He's a football player. Whoopity doo.
                  then why are you crying so much about one player not wanting to be a packer anymore?

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                  • If the Packers play next season without Rodgers, I'm going to have a beer (or 10) and enjoy the games.

                    Anyone that wants to be miserable instead is welcome to do so.

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                    • Originally posted by red View Post
                      then trade him

                      i'm i'm not saying that your choice. but if they player wants some control or input, and the team wants him to have none, then let him go try and find a team that will do that

                      and he won't be hurt if this drags out. like i said earlier, everyone other then packer fans are saying this is totally the organizations fault for things getting his bad. only packer fans are gonna be upset with him, and he won't care because he won't play in green bay ever again

                      i will add this about rodgers and all the bashing he's taken about him being a "diva". did we know until yesterday that he was gone with green bay, even though he's told teammates and mangement all offseason that he wants out? did he go on twitter to talk about how the team has promised to trade him, then change there mind until last night? did he go to any talk shows to talk about how management has been flying out to see him to change his mind? has he talked or bitched about all the contract negotiations that supposedly have been going one

                      nope, he hasn't been talking or bitching about any of that until last night when he saw he had no other choice if he was gonna get out of here this year
                      I'm not bashing Rodgers. I'm just trying to balance bashing the organization while absolving Rodgers of any responsibility.

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                      • What about ever other player on the Packers? Shouldn't they all be able to demand trades for the same reason as Rodgers? Don't they also want to win it all? Rodgers is apparently willing to bail on his teammates and that's just fine? Why is this all about Rodgers and none of them matter? What about the fans that pay his salary all these years?

                        I'm just trying to point out that even if you think the Packers origination messed up, it's not a good look for Rodgers either.

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                        • Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
                          QBs are so important and Rodgers is so good, yet when the team loses a game it's all because of one first round pick, not the QB. The hypocrisy is comical.

                          Look, I want Rodgers to stay. I think he's insanely good. One of the greatest of all time. But the bootlicking he can do now wrong attitude is something you'll never get from me. He signed a contract in exchange for committing to a bunch of extra years. Man up.
                          which brings up an interesting point for those that think he would have to pay back all his signing bonus

                          in december 2019 he restructured his contract to convert a roster bonus into a signing bonus. this didn't change the amount of money he got, it was just an accounting thing to help the team save some cap space. so that 14 million got spread over the remaining years. so if you then say he has to pay that back to the team because it was a signing bonus that is kinda bullshit, because it was originally a 2020 roster bonus

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                          • Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
                            He's partly responsible for not showing up when it mattered. Time to look in the mirror.
                            Arod was one of the only guys to show up at the NFCCG. The Oline whiffed (and Lindsley himself took the blame). MVS played. Adams whiffed. No D pressure

                            That said TB was stacked. That D brought it. As Phil Simms said about the Super Bowl (esp the TB front 7 on defense), it was boys versus men. He was there.

                            They had little shot of beating TB. But AR did not lose that game. I'm not "hero worshipping." AR is just that good and also dedicated to winning. See Jones, who was knocked out and gave up the only fumble of his career. TB came to play.GB was underdog and AR gave GB their only chance.

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                            • I agree

                              This is not a good look for Rodgers either.

                              But the GM's job is to smooth these things over. Gute can't. His response is to waste a pick on a future QB. It's ego and incompetence. You DO NOT LET GO a qb of Arod's ability.
                              Last edited by Jaire; 04-30-2021, 07:01 PM.

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                              • Originally posted by red View Post
                                which brings up an interesting point for those that think he would have to pay back all his signing bonus

                                in december 2019 he restructured his contract to convert a roster bonus into a signing bonus. this didn't change the amount of money he got, it was just an accounting thing to help the team save some cap space. so that 14 million got spread over the remaining years. so if you then say he has to pay that back to the team because it was a signing bonus that is kinda bullshit, because it was originally a 2020 roster bonus
                                He signed a new deal and got more guaranteed money in exchange for that. He knew, or should have known, that was part of the trade-off. If I sign a contract don't read the fine print or understand it, that's on me. Nobody is going to come me to my rescue.

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