AR wants out?!

[Bossman641]

Rodgers has essentially now said the only way he's coming back is if Gute is gone? If so, fuck him. No player is bigger then the organization.

[George Cumby]

Rodgers has essentially now said the only way he's coming back is if Gute is gone? If so, fuck him. No player is bigger then the organization.

Where'd you see this?

I was in fuck Erin Rodgers on Page One of this.

Fuck Bert. Fuck Erin.

[Bossman641]

https://sports.yahoo.com/if-packers-remain-dug-in-against-trading-aaron-rodgers-a-holdout-or-retirement-is-possible-061232959.html?ncid=twitter_yahoosport_dw14wrbb51g

[George Cumby]

I read just enough to puke in my mouth.

This is what happens when you get surrounded by 'yes-men', it distorts your reality.

If there is merit to the story, he thinks he gets to choose his boss. Lol.

[sharpe1027]

Hard to believe both Smiths played in 2019 after they took Gary in the first. They just signed with GB and Glutes immediately drafts their replacement.

Stupid move to draft Gary. If they drafted a player at a position that would have maybe started as a rookie, they might have won it all that year. The Smiths should be demanding a trade.

[sharpe1027]

Rodgers has essentially now said the only way he's coming back is if Gute is gone? If so, fuck him. No player is bigger then the organization.

Whoa! Big gulps, eh? Well, see you later!

[George Cumby]

Stupid move to draft Gary. If they drafted a player at a position that would have maybe started as a rookie, the might shave won it all that year. The Smiths should be demanding a trade.

I can't tell, is this is sarcasm?

[Packers4Glory]

Rodgers has essentially now said the only way he's coming back is if Gute is gone? If so, fuck him. No player is bigger then the organization.

Yeah. He’s bigger than some sad sack GM. Get real. He proves he has no clue about leadership when they blindsided Rodgers in the draft.

[Bossman641]

Whoa! Big gulps, eh? Well, see you later!

Nice set of hooters you got there.
The owls, they're beautiful

[Packers4Glory]

Stupid move to draft Gary. If they drafted a player at a position that would have maybe started as a rookie, they might have won it all that year. The Smiths should be demanding a trade.

Not even close to the same thing. GTFO

Defensive players rotate in & out. QB’s don’t. But Gary was a stupid pick. I was screaming for Metcalf. We got a project instead of immediate need after signing that same position dot big money in FA. Made zero sense. Not to mention Gary was at best 4th on the depth chart at that time

[sharpe1027]

I can't tell, is this is sarcasm?

Me either.

[sharpe1027]

Not even close to the same thing. GTFO

Defensive players rotate in & out. QB’s don’t. But Gary was a stupid pick. I was screaming for Metcalf. We got a project instead of immediate need after signing that same position dot big money in FA. Made zero sense. Not to mention Gary was at best 4th on the depth chart at that time

And yet, Gary was a significant contibutor to the team that was a play or so way from the Superbowl last year, and could be even more impactful this year.

[Fritz]

I can't tell, is this is sarcasm?

Pretty sure Sharpe is being sarcastic and thus is agreeing with your point.

I saw also that the "big, sloppy, public" blow job Rodgers is demanding in order to come back to the team (in addition of course to the extension) is that Gutekunst be fired.

Wow.

Now, I will say that Gutekunst and the Pack really fucked up last year - as soon as Gutes knew he was drafting a QB, it would've behooved him and the team for Gutes to place a phone call to Rodgers and let him know what the move was, and assure him it was for down the road, Aaron, you're our guy, etc. etc. You don't do that for everyone on the team, of course, but for Rodgers it was warranted.

But I also am of the opinion that Rodgers's ginormous and fragile ego is mostly the problem. Of course he knows the Packers will not fire Gutekunst. Rodgers is simply trying to force his way out. Now that firing Gutes is one of his prime conditions, and that's been made public, it seems clear Rodgers is really trying to force his way out.

And so the Packers probably should trade him after June 1st when the cap year changes (I think that's the date). They should be able to get a good return. After all, they can tell teams that if they don't trade Rodgers, they'll let him sit the year out. For a 37 year-old-guy, that's a big loss. And it's one less year other teams would have with Rodgers.

Maybe send him to the Raiders, and get as many high-end picks as you can plus David Carr, who can fill in this year while Loverboy gets up to speed. Maybe they'll throw in one other young player who can lift that defensive line. I don't know who they have, though. Heck, even if you get first round draft picks starting in 2023, that's okay. This has become about the longer term good of the team.

But that last paragraph is just me fan-speculating on what I'd like to see. The bigger picture is that it's clear now that this rift is one that Rodgers will work to widen, and it's in the Packers' best interest to trade him this summer. Now that Rodgers has let it be known that he wants Gutes gone as a condition of his return - well, it's over. Hell, even if you could get Rodgers to come back for the season, it would be poison - like the summer Favre came back to camp.

Short-circuit that scenario by saying nice things about Rodgers in public from now until after June first. Say he's your guy, say he's the best, hope you can mend things. Meanwhile, work the phones. Tell teams you want a mint and you're willing to let Rodgers rot at home with his fiance this season if you don't get what he's really worth as a player.

Then ship his ass out of here, get a vet to step in this season, and go on from there.

[Fritz]

I'll risk posting twice in a row to add one caveat: if in the back corner of Mark Murphy's head he's been thinking he's not really thrilled with Gutekunst's work as GM, and someone else would be better, wouldn't this be your perfect "out"? Fire Gutes, give Russ Ball or someone else the job, be clear to the public that Rodgers had no say in the choice of the new GM, get Rodgers to come back with an extension, all is love and butterflies again, and you got rid of the guy you secretly weren't happy with.

[ThunderDan]

Agreed. But Rodgers doesn't want to defuse the situation - hell, he's the one who lit the fuse.

I wonder if he's trying to punish the team for last year's drafting of Love and then trying to get them to make up for it by giving him a big, sloppy, public BJ while forking over a generous contract extension that guarantees he's the QB in Green Bay for the next five years.

Like you said, it's not about money. But the money, in the world we're in, represents respect. And Rodgers, as always, feels disrespected.

That’s why I think ARod has played his last snap for GB. He didn’t defuse it meaning he wanted it out there.