AR wants out?!

[sharpe1027]

This passage is accurate and never got the love it deserves.

Late first round picks aren't generally considered top tier picks, QB or otherwise. Someone needs to tell Rodgers to R-E-L-A-X.

[bobblehead]

This passage is accurate and never got the love it deserves.

Lets see if I can tear this down. Did the broncos end up functional after manning? The bucs have had brady for one season so...pass on that one. Saints never did get over the hump again, and now are in cap and talent hell. Ditto Steelers. Cardinals absolutely did if Rosen is his name. Chargers kept Rivers until he was so bad they had the 6 overall pick. Similar answer for giants.

[Joemailman]

It's come to this.

[texaspackerbacker]

Who the fuck is this Ryan Wing anyway? And why the fuck would anybody believe a word he says?

As I said in one of the other thread, media shitheads are total scum, IMO, and I think that way even in the rare instances when I like what they have to say.

[call_me_ishmael]

Lets see if I can tear this down. Did the broncos end up functional after manning? The bucs have had brady for one season so...pass on that one. Saints never did get over the hump again, and now are in cap and talent hell. Ditto Steelers. Cardinals absolutely did if Rosen is his name. Chargers kept Rivers until he was so bad they had the 6 overall pick. Similar answer for giants.

This is sort of the point, right? They didn't worry about the future - they went all in to win in the present. Right, wrong or indifferent, it's a the approach that pretty much every team with a highly regarded QBs seem to take.

Rosen was picked after Carson Palmer retired.

Personally, I'd rather win a title and suck for a few years than never win. I'm sure ARod feels the same. It's his legacy - and it's Gooter's legacy as well. Nobody cares about the GM that goes to the playoffs 13 times in 15 years and goes 0-3 in the championship game or whatever.

[sharpe1027]

This is sort of the point, right? They didn't worry about the future - they went all in to win in the present. Right, wrong or indifferent, it's a the approach that pretty much every team with a highly regarded QBs seem to take.

Rosen was picked after Carson Palmer retired.

Personally, I'd rather win a title and suck for a few years than never win. I'm sure ARod feels the same. It's his legacy - and it's Gooter's legacy as well. Nobody cares about the GM that goes to the playoffs 13 times in 15 years and goes 0-3 in the championship game or whatever.

If not drafting a QB early equates to going all in, the Packers were all in for many, many years.

It's one late first round pick. Jesus people. Get some perspective.

[Packers4Glory]

If not drafting a QB early equates to going all in, the Packers were all in for many, many years.

It's one late first round pick. Jesus people. Get some perspective.

And a 3rd string running back followed by a 4th string TE for 2020. Minus a 4th round pick. Sooo yeah. Some need to gain perspective on how awful that draft was following a NFC championship. Universally panned by draft analysis. I get you can’t really judge a class for a few years but considering our needs & where we were as a team it was s as n indefensible draft.

[sharpe1027]

And a 3rd string running back followed by a 4th string TE for 2020. Minus a 4th round pick. Sooo yeah. Some need to gain perspective on how awful that draft was following a NFC championship. Universally panned by draft analysis. I get you can’t really judge a class for a few years but considering our needs & where we were as a team it was s as n indefensible draft.

The third string running back was a difference and may have gotten us to the Superbowl if we hadn't gone away from the run so completely. Regardless, you made my point. Going all in has almost nothing to do with the most recent draft. You can't judge a draft for a few years because you shouldn't expect immediate impact from the draft. It happens, but it's more the exception than the rule.

Whatever going all in means, it probably needs to be through FA. We arguably did that signing the Smiths.

[bobblehead]

This is sort of the point, right? They didn't worry about the future - they went all in to win in the present. Right, wrong or indifferent, it's a the approach that pretty much every team with a highly regarded QBs seem to take.

Rosen was picked after Carson Palmer retired.

Personally, I'd rather win a title and suck for a few years than never win. I'm sure ARod feels the same. It's his legacy - and it's Gooter's legacy as well. Nobody cares about the GM that goes to the playoffs 13 times in 15 years and goes 0-3 in the championship game or whatever.

Actually, I'm guilty of being behind the times on a point. It seems the Bucs did draft a QB in round 2 this year in Kyle Trask. I haven't seen...is Brady pissed? I mean they are totally in win now mode and wasted a 2nd round pick on a backup that won't see the field....wtf??

[Packers4Glory]

The third string running back was a difference and may have gotten us to the Superbowl if we hadn't gone away from the run so completely. Regardless, you made my point. Going all in has almost nothing to do with the most recent draft. You can't judge a draft for a few years because you shouldn't expect immediate impact from the draft. It happens, but it's more the exception than the rule.

Whatever going all in means, it probably needs to be through FA. We arguably did that signing the Smiths.

When a team won’t or can’t fill holes via FA you do it the draft. Or you try. You can and could have found immediate contribution in those first 4 rounds with more impact than Martin made after. He filled a need. Unfortunately for us he wasn’t going to be healthy so he missed some valuable time.

[Packers4Glory]

Actually, I'm guilty of being behind the times on a point. It seems the Bucs did draft a QB in round 2 this year in Kyle Trask. I haven't seen...is Brady pissed? I mean they are totally in win now mode and wasted a 2nd round pick on a backup that won't see the field....wtf??

Wut? I’m sure that 1 Brady knew.

2 they won the entire thing and are basically bringing back the same roster. At this point they’re providing depth, & not filling gaping holes in the roster lol.

Try again.

[bobblehead]

Wut? I’m sure that 1 Brady knew.

2 they won the entire thing and are basically bringing back the same roster. At this point they’re providing depth, & not filling gaping holes in the roster lol.

Try again.

Ah but other teams got better. They can't afford to sit on past accolades. We honestly should have beaten them in the NFCC game and here they are wasting a 2nd. If we nudge them in the playoffs this year brady might wonder what might have been if only they had taken a player in the 2nd round instead of a guy for the future.

and...how are you sure that Brady knew?

[Upnorth]

The bucs won because of injuries to the best it in the game and then injuries to 3/5ths of an oline. They got some luck at the right time. They do have a great roster, as do we.

Anyone who says dillion is a waste must not watch the game. And Fergus was perfect for the off but injured then covid. Try harder.

[Packers4Glory]

Ah but other teams got better. They can't afford to sit on past accolades. We honestly should have beaten them in the NFCC game and here they are wasting a 2nd. If we nudge them in the playoffs this year brady might wonder what might have been if only they had taken a player in the 2nd round instead of a guy for the future.

and...how are you sure that Brady knew?

I’m not sure he knew but its soo s million ways different. But I’d bet a lot he knew. He’s been given a lot of input from what I’ve seen. 2nd QBs you aren’t the same as ones in the 1st you trade up to get.

[sharpe1027]

I’m not sure he knew but its soo s million ways different. But I’d bet a lot he knew. He’s been given a lot of input from what I’ve seen. 2nd QBs you aren’t the same as ones in the 1st you trade up to get.

I can't take you serious.