AR wants out?!

[wist43]

The bucs won because of injuries to the best it in the game and then injuries to 3/5ths of an oline. They got some luck at the right time. They do have a great roster, as do we.

Anyone who says dillion is a waste must not watch the game. And Fergus was perfect for the off but injured then covid. Try harder.

Dillon was the only viable pick we made in rds 1-4 last year. Love was a huge negative in so many ways it's incalculable; Deguera was way over drafted and contributed nothing; and, the 4th rd pick was wasted to move up and get Love.

3 completely wasted high draft picks that will continue to harm the team for at least a couple more years.

No matter how you slice it, the Love and Deguera picks were moronic. Don't have any problem with the Dillon pick beyond the WR's that were available. Dillon is a good player.

[sharpe1027]

Dillon was the only viable pick we made in rds 1-4 last year. Love was a huge negative in so many ways it's incalculable; Deguera was way over drafted and contributed nothing; and, the 4th rd pick was wasted to move up and get Love.

3 completely wasted high draft picks that will continue to harm the team for at least a couple more years.

No matter how you slice it, the Love and Deguera picks were moronic. Don't have any problem with the Dillon pick beyond the WR's that were available. Dillon is a good player.

Several pucks that didn't contribute their rookie year. The sky is falling and the team won't be able to recover.

[wist43]

Several pucks that didn't contribute their rookie year. The sky is falling and the team won't be able to recover.

1. It diminishes the odds of winning another championship while Rodgers is here.
2. It completely blew up team chemistry to the point where Rodgers wants out and the Packers are the NFL's version of As The World Turns.
3. It fails to shore up weaker areas of the roster, which has longer term effects b/c of how quickly rosters turnover. In terms of whackamole?? There will be more moles to whack in a few years b/c those positions were ignored.

The sun will come up tomorrow, the sky is not falling... but that isn't what we're talking about is it?? We're talking about building a football team.

Never suspected you were a drama queen, but folks keep weird shit packed away in their closet. You're not a crossdresser are you??

[Upnorth]

Dergura is not a waste, he is a perfect fit for the Lafluer o. He was injured then covid. Time will tell.

[wist43]

Dergura is not a waste, he is a perfect fit for the Lafluer o. He was injured then covid. Time will tell.

Yes, he is a perfect fit, and I'm sure he'll contribute; but, nobody valued him as 3rd round pick. He'd have been there in the 5th, and if he wasn't?? So what... draft a more highly rated player and continue to stock your roster.

Gute didn't do that - not in the least. I liked Dillon, and I like Martin, but Gute butchered the first half of that draft... there's no getting around that.

[sharpe1027]

1. It diminishes the odds of winning another championship while Rodgers is here.
2. It completely blew up team chemistry to the point where Rodgers wants out and the Packers are the NFL's version of As The World Turns.
3. It fails to shore up weaker areas of the roster, which has longer term effects b/c of how quickly rosters turnover. In terms of whackamole?? There will be more moles to whack in a few years b/c those positions were ignored.

The sun will come up tomorrow, the sky is not falling... but that isn't what we're talking about is it?? We're talking about building a football team.

Never suspected you were a drama queen, but folks keep weird shit packed away in their closet. You're not a crossdresser are you??

Thing is, you can say that about every team's draft.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Yes, he is a perfect fit, and I'm sure he'll contribute; but, nobody valued him as 3rd round pick. He'd have been there in the 5th, and if he wasn't?? So what... draft a more highly rated player and continue to stock your roster.

Gute didn't do that - not in the least. I liked Dillon, and I like Martin, but Gute butchered the first half of that draft... there's no getting around that.

These proclamations are beyond silly. Nobody, especially you or I, know if he would have been available in the 5th round.

TE probably has the biggest discrepancy between what the draft community projects and where TEs go. A lot of it is scheme fit. Look at the 2021 draft alone. 5 of the 12 drafted TEs went at least a round higher than any of the 6 draft boards that I looked at (NFL.com, ESPN, Draft Wire, Draft Network, CBS, and PFF).

Tre McKitty went in round 3. None of these draft sites had McKitty ranked in the top 100.
John Bates went in round 4. None of thes sites had Bates earlier than round 6.
Kylen Grayson went in round 4. None of these sites had Grayson earlier than round 5.
Luke Farrell went in round 5. None of these sites had Farrell earlier than round 7.
Zach Davidson went in round 5. None of these sites had Davidson earlier than round 6.

[Joemailman]

NFL Network had DeGuara ranked about 120 overall. It's highly unlikely he would have been there at 175 which is the pick the Packers had in the 5th round. Perhaps they picked him a round early because they had traded their 4th round pick. If DeGuara turns out to be the player I think he is though, I won't care much.

[texaspackerbacker]

So if they hadn't thrown away the 4th round pick, they likely could have gotten him them? Maybe ...... or somebody a lot better. He would seem more suited, based on size, to be a fullback than a TE. Plus, we already had a shitload of TEs, arguably all of them except maybe Sternberger better than him.

[call_me_ishmael]

Actually, I'm guilty of being behind the times on a point. It seems the Bucs did draft a QB in round 2 this year in Kyle Trask. I haven't seen...is Brady pissed? I mean they are totally in win now mode and wasted a 2nd round pick on a backup that won't see the field....wtf??

Biggggg difference between pick 64 and pick 24 though. They already won now and resigned everybody, I think it's totally different.

[call_me_ishmael]

If not drafting a QB early equates to going all in, the Packers were all in for many, many years.

It's one late first round pick. Jesus people. Get some perspective.

I dunno, I think another OT would have looked _really_ good and made a huge difference vs Bucs in NFCC. Having another Bryan Bulaga type player changes that game, no doubt.

Would they have landed a solid tackle at 28-30? I dunno, maybe, but drafting Love instead ensures that position remained week to instead of taking a shot at making it better.

We can agree to disagree. It's a complicated subject with no right or wrong answer. I wouldn't have picked Love there, though.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I dunno, I think another OT would have looked _really_ good and made a huge difference vs Bucs in NFCC. Having another Bryan Bulaga type player changes that game, no doubt.

Would they have landed a solid tackle at 28-30? I dunno, maybe, but drafting Love instead ensures that position remained week to instead of taking a shot at making it better.

We can agree to disagree. It's a complicated subject with no right or wrong answer. I wouldn't have picked Love there, though.

Which OT? Considering there were only 2 OTs taken between Love and Dillon, down year for OT. Ezra Cleveland got 9 starts at OG for Minnesota and graded below average. Isaiah Wilson flamed out and he's already with a new team.

Three OT were drafted in round 3. They combined for 1 start. Lucas Niang opted out of the season. Matt Peart got 1 start for the Giants. Josh Jones didn't start a game for Arizona.

Also remember that Green Bay had already signed Ricky Wagner, so they had a healthy Bakh + Billy Turner + Wagner (3 solid NFL vets). I think they liked their depth there. Wagner actually had a good year until the final game, so I doubt a rookie would have started over him in that game--especially last year's crop of rookies.

Hindsight is 20-20, but here it doesn't look that good in hindsight.

[King Friday]

These proclamations are beyond silly. Nobody, especially you or I, know if he would have been available in the 5th round.

TE probably has the biggest discrepancy between what the draft community projects and where TEs go. A lot of it is scheme fit. Look at the 2021 draft alone. 5 of the 12 drafted TEs went at least a round higher than any of the 6 draft boards that I looked at (NFL.com, ESPN, Draft Wire, Draft Network, CBS, and PFF).

Tre McKitty went in round 3. None of these draft sites had McKitty ranked in the top 100.
John Bates went in round 4. None of thes sites had Bates earlier than round 6.
Kylen Grayson went in round 4. None of these sites had Grayson earlier than round 5.
Luke Farrell went in round 5. None of these sites had Farrell earlier than round 7.
Zach Davidson went in round 5. None of these sites had Davidson earlier than round 6.

Wist is still working on the comeback to this. He's hired Johnny Cochran to help out. A glove may come into play.

[Packers4Glory]

Yes, he is a perfect fit, and I'm sure he'll contribute; but, nobody valued him as 3rd round pick. He'd have been there in the 5th, and if he wasn't?? So what... draft a more highly rated player and continue to stock your roster.

Gute didn't do that - not in the least. I liked Dillon, and I like Martin, but Gute butchered the first half of that draft... there's no getting around that.

I've said I like Dillon. He looks good. I still contend that pick only made sense if you planned on moving on from Aaron Jones and use that money for other holes in your roster. I'd have rather kept Linsley if possible or found some help on the Dline.

I thought possibly they'd keep Williams and have him and Dillon be the guys in the backfield and then use the Jones money to fill holes. That's what the pick of a RB in the 2nd round told me and nearly everyone else.

[Zool]

Which OT? Considering there were only 2 OTs taken between Love and Dillon, down year for OT. Ezra Cleveland got 9 starts at OG for Minnesota and graded below average. Isaiah Wilson flamed out and he's already with a new team.

Three OT were drafted in round 3. They combined for 1 start. Lucas Niang opted out of the season. Matt Peart got 1 start for the Giants. Josh Jones didn't start a game for Arizona.

Also remember that Green Bay had already signed Ricky Wagner, so they had a healthy Bakh + Billy Turner + Wagner (3 solid NFL vets). I think they liked their depth there. Wagner actually had a good year until the final game, so I doubt a rookie would have started over him in that game--especially last year's crop of rookies.

Hindsight is 20-20, but here it doesn't look that good in hindsight.

Facts are for suckers. I want the Packers to have an all-pro at every position while still on a rookie contract. What I want, I get.