AR wants out?!

[Joemailman]

To no one's surprise, Rodgers not at OTA practice today according to sources. No word yet on what other players were not there. Practice is open to media tomorrow.

[RashanGary]

I got you beat. I thought Burks had potential.

I had mike Hawkins, otherwise known as Dion Hawkins.

[call_me_ishmael]

I had mike Hawkins, otherwise known as Dion Hawkins.

lol you loved yourself some neon Mike Hawkins haha. That guy had one heck of a training camp, though.

[Bretsky]

Hawkins was a great athlete

I loved the AJ Hawk pick

[texaspackerbacker]

I was absolutely thrilled when we drafted Jamal Reynolds. If you go way back, I really like the Brent Fullwood pick and D Tackle big Mike McCoy too. Even before that, I thought Randy Duncan of Iowa was gonna solve our QB problem, but he fled to Canada. Thank goodness, Bart Starr appeared and saved things.

[sharpe1027]

I'm never wrong. I just refuse to take a stance on anyone.

[RashanGary]

lol you loved yourself some neon Mike Hawkins haha. That guy had one heck of a training camp, though.

Back then I thought every great athlete would become a great football player. Now we all know it’s a combination of a lot of things (a natural feel for the game, work ethic, athletic ability.) A guy like Eric Stokes now, good player in the SEC, hard worker, elite athlete.... it’s not like he’s Charles Woodson with having a knack for football but he’s not Will Blackmon either (zero pass breakups in 4 years in GB.) His weakest area is that feel for the game but even that he’s like a 6/10. Stokes has close to 100% chance to be average like King and maybe a 50% chance to be good and a 20% chance to be great. I’ve learned to temper expectations for sure.

[bobblehead]

I'm never wrong. I just refuse to take a stance on anyone.

I look forward to your future in politics. That is a talent that serves well in that realm.

[bobblehead]

Back then I thought every great athlete would become a great football player. Now we all know it’s a combination of a lot of things (a natural feel for the game, work ethic, athletic ability.) A guy like Eric Stokes now, good player in the SEC, hard worker, elite athlete.... it’s not like he’s Charles Woodson with having a knack for football but he’s not Will Blackmon either (zero pass breakups in 4 years in GB.) His weakest area is that feel for the game but even that he’s like a 6/10. Stokes has close to 100% chance to be average like King and maybe a 50% chance to be good and a 20% chance to be great. I’ve learned to temper expectations for sure.

His hips aren't good enough to become truly elite imo. However, his makeup speed makes it hard for him to fail when coupled with the fact he has played top talent and looked good.

[RashanGary]

His hips aren't good enough to become truly elite imo. However, his makeup speed makes it hard for him to fail when coupled with the fact he has played top talent and looked good.

True. And suspect ball skills. Even a late first round pick like Stokes makes me think somewhere between average and really good. I used to think undrafted guys who ran a 4.3 would be HOFers. Now I doubt greatness from first rounders who run a 4.2.

[Upnorth]

I haven't been this stoked about a draft pick since cm3. If stokes is 75% of that level we got a he'll of a player.

I love that this thread has evolved into everything else. Sick of the drama already. I think 2008 broke me for this stuff.that might be why I had no patience for Brandon.

[texaspackerbacker]

Back then I thought every great athlete would become a great football player. Now we all know it’s a combination of a lot of things (a natural feel for the game, work ethic, athletic ability.) A guy like Eric Stokes now, good player in the SEC, hard worker, elite athlete.... it’s not like he’s Charles Woodson with having a knack for football but he’s not Will Blackmon either (zero pass breakups in 4 years in GB.) His weakest area is that feel for the game but even that he’s like a 6/10. Stokes has close to 100% chance to be average like King and maybe a 50% chance to be good and a 20% chance to be great. I’ve learned to temper expectations for sure.

You do realize, that adds up to 170% hahahahaha.

I've got the same feeling about Stokes that I had for Jamal Reynolds.

[RashanGary]

You do realize, that adds up to 170% hahahahaha.

I've got the same feeling about Stokes that I had for Jamal Reynolds.

I'm saying 100% at least average
50% at least good
20% at least great

Being great still falls.under at least average. It made sense to me

[HarveyWallbangers]

Long, but interesting article:

Let The Jordan Love Era Begin

Bottom line for Dunne: trade Rodgers (who appears really petty), ride with Love (who could be really good)--which is kind of where I'm at.

[HarveyWallbangers]

There's another article by Dunne, but you have to pay to access. Wish I could read it because it looks like a doozy.

When you’re out, you’re out. There is no reconciliation. If Aaron Rodgers puts you on his shit list, there is no path off of that shit list.

The grudge is real. It’s been discussed.

And leak to leak to leak, Rodgers let the world know who the latest person to make this list is: Green Bay Packers GM Brian Gutekunst.