AR wants out?!

[texaspackerbacker]

Long, but interesting article:

Let The Jordan Love Era Begin

Bottom line for Dunne: trade Rodgers (who appears really petty), ride with Love (who could be really good)--which is kind of where I'm at.

Then fuck Mr. Dunne.

[Joemailman]

Long, but interesting article:

Let The Jordan Love Era Begin

Bottom line for Dunne: trade Rodgers (who appears really petty), ride with Love (who could be really good)--which is kind of where I'm at.

Pretty interesting. The trade proposal would be incredible. Adams, Jeudy, MVS and Lazard would sure make Love's job easier.

One AFC front office executive is blunt: There’s no way to “win” a Rodgers trade when Rodgers is guaranteed to go scorched earth but he also thinks a team would give the Packers whatever they want.

His guess is that two firsts, two seconds and two players such as wideout Jerry Jeudy and defensive end Bradley Chubb would do the trick.

Such a trade would be unprecedented. No team has ever dealt a reigning MVP.

[George Cumby]

Long, but interesting article:

Let The Jordan Love Era Begin

Bottom line for Dunne: trade Rodgers (who appears really petty), ride with Love (who could be really good)--which is kind of where I'm at.

The Love, ah, ahem, love, is getting me kind of excited.

It sounds irreconcilable.

Let's get our King's Ransom and run.

[th87]

Long, but interesting article:

Let The Jordan Love Era Begin

Bottom line for Dunne: trade Rodgers (who appears really petty), ride with Love (who could be really good)--which is kind of where I'm at.

What makes you think Love could be really good?

I obviously would never rule him out, but QBs drafted outside the top 10 *overwhelmingly* become nothing.

http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/qb

In the last 10 years, I see Wilson, Cousins (debatable), Prescott, Watson, Jackson. That's 5 or so out of 80. Could Love be added to that list? It's possible. But the odds are heavily against it.

[bobblehead]

What makes you think Love could be really good?

I obviously would never rule him out, but QBs drafted outside the top 10 *overwhelmingly* become nothing.

http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/qb

In the last 10 years, I see Wilson, Cousins (debatable), Prescott, Watson, Jackson. That's 5 or so out of 80. Could Love be added to that list? It's possible. But the odds are heavily against it.

To be fair, out of 80 QBs drafted in the last 10 years most of them became nothing. And if you go back a bit further you could add some names to the list. Favre, Brady, Rodgers, Brees for instance....pretty much every great QB not named manning in recent history. Recently you used the cutoff of 10, Maholmes was exactly 10.

Guys who were top 10 picks include Tua, Murry, Daniel Jones, Sam Darnold, Josh Rosen, Mitch Trubisky, Goff, Wentz, Winston, Marriota, Bortles, RG3, Tannehill, Gabbert, and Bradford.

So, basically a lot of busts that cost even more than the 26th pick.

I stand by what I have said for a long time. Coaching, system and playing behind a good OL plays a big factor in winning and QB success. Rodgers should be grateful he got drafted by the Packers instead of the Bears. This year 2 QBs got put in great situations. Wilson and Lance. Lawrence has overwhelming ability so he will do well. Mac Jones probably landed in the ideal spot for him as well. But Love landed in his ideal spot. But over the years some good prospects got ruined by organizations that never seem to learn basic lessons.

[texaspackerbacker]

Channeling APB here, but notice any common thread among all but the debatable one? Love at least has that going for him hahahahaha.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

The smile on your face seems to say
I’m so happy dancing my way
But what’s so merry when all ain’t OK
Because of you, drafter of Love-ay
Losing ‘Butte’ is the price we could pay
Go do acid with Love, if you may
Or bang fishmongers like Tony O’Day
Do any fuck you please but stay
As GM of the Packers of Green Bay
Oh, German Shepherd, off you go to stray!
Oh, German Shepherd, resign today!

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Edited

The smile on your face seems to say
I’m so happy dancing my fucking way
But what’s so merry when all ain’t OK?
Because of you, drafter of Love-ay
Losing ‘Butte’ could be the price we pay
Go do acid with Love, if you may
Or bang fishmongers like Tony O’Day
Do any fuck you please but stay
As GM of the Packers of Green Bay
Oh, German Shepherd, off you go to stray!
Oh, German Shepherd, resign today!

[Upnorth]

Channeling APB here, but notice any common thread among all but the debatable one? Love at least has that going for him hahahahaha.

Sorry for being dense but I don't see a unifying theme... Can you elaborate?

[th87]

Channeling APB here, but notice any common thread among all but the debatable one? Love at least has that going for him hahahahaha.

Hmm...interesting observation.

[th87]

To be fair, out of 80 QBs drafted in the last 10 years most of them became nothing. And if you go back a bit further you could add some names to the list. Favre, Brady, Rodgers, Brees for instance....pretty much every great QB not named manning in recent history. Recently you used the cutoff of 10, Maholmes was exactly 10.

Guys who were top 10 picks include Tua, Murry, Daniel Jones, Sam Darnold, Josh Rosen, Mitch Trubisky, Goff, Wentz, Winston, Marriota, Bortles, RG3, Tannehill, Gabbert, and Bradford.

So, basically a lot of busts that cost even more than the 26th pick.

I stand by what I have said for a long time. Coaching, system and playing behind a good OL plays a big factor in winning and QB success. Rodgers should be grateful he got drafted by the Packers instead of the Bears. This year 2 QBs got put in great situations. Wilson and Lance. Lawrence has overwhelming ability so he will do well. Mac Jones probably landed in the ideal spot for him as well. But Love landed in his ideal spot. But over the years some good prospects got ruined by organizations that never seem to learn basic lessons.

I didn't go back further because it was too much work, and my belief that scouting may have improved, so teams are less likely to pluck diamonds in the rough.

Usually teams drafting QBs later than the top half of the first round are doing so as projects, so in most cases, they are allowed to take their time to learn. Further, if you're drafting lower in a round, that usually means you have a better team overall. So the good situations should be in place for QBs picked later, but success is still incredibly limited.

Based on the likelihood of success (very low), and the capital used to play it (very high), and at the point in the franchise's lifecycle the pick was made, it was somewhat dumb from day 1. And then the downstream effects turned it into a disaster.

[Fritz]

Pretty interesting. The trade proposal would be incredible. Adams, Jeudy, MVS and Lazard would sure make Love's job easier.

Since the Packers appear to suck at picking defensive linemen, I would like to see at least one of the two bodies in any trade package include a rising young defensive line stud.

[red]

i'll go ahead and say it since no one else has the balls to

i question a-rods mental state right now

he's dated a lot of really really good looking girls, guys rich, and i'm told good looking. he can probably get any chick he wants

but he is now engaged to one homely, fugly looking girl. i just don't get it. she better be great in the sack with a bag over her head or something

i mean, woof

[Joemailman]

i'll go ahead and say it since no one else has the balls to

i question a-rods mental state right now

he's dated a lot of really really good looking girls, guys rich, and i'm told good looking. he can probably get any chick he wants

but he is now engaged to one homely, fugly looking girl. i just don't get it. she better be great in the sack with a bag over her head or something

i mean, woof

Okay, Shallow Hal.

[NewsBruin]

But she's Jodie Foster-approved!

One thing that is reminiscent of the Favre situation is that Aaron barely has any lockerroom peers. He's got Marcedes Lewis (16 seasons, but only 3 or so with Green Bay), Mason Crosby (15 seasons as scapegoat kicker), and Baktiari (9). Everyone else from Rodgers' first 8 years is gone. Rodgers doesn't seem like he feeds off or generates that rah-rah lockerroom brotherhood mentality that Mahomes, Brees, or Brady naturally do. I don't think Peyton Manning was a Hype Man, but he probably knew every offensive player's tendencies and the names of their nieces' and nephews' homeroom teachers -- and everyone on the Broncos knew how little he had left in his arm.

Rodgers is incredible in so many respects, but I think his current salary should come with an expectation that he does what he can to rally the team. Maybe that's why we offered Aaron Jones to stick around. It sucks that Rodgers had a good offensive coach who regressed under pressure, an excellent GM who got dementia on the job, and an executive suite that is voted on by shareholders. Those cost him in his prime years. But those are the breaks; there are very few perfect scenarios in the NFL, even in the teams that have won a lot. I think he might have been done poorly, but he wasn't done wrong.

I think his 90-day fiancée with her own social circle and Life Outside Football is not going to endear Aaron to be more of the heart and soul of the offense. I'm glad he's happy-ish, but I'm not gonna be heartbroken when the ride ends.