AR wants out?!

[texaspackerbacker]

Tex, I wish I had your ability to ignore everything going on and come up to a kool aide conclusion )))

What "kool aide conclusion"? I pointed out the fact that those receivers even other than Davante also didn't show up, which to me is solidarity with Rodgers. Why has nobody else picked up on that? Do you or anybody have another reason for it?

I also said there is no evidence to support the idea that anything is worse after the interview with that dumbass media guy. Do any of those thinking there is care to state what?

And I already discussed the NBA thing - the stupid assertion that Kawhi comes remotely close to Rodgers or Giannis level greatness. Do you see THAT as "kool aide"? Sheeeesh.

Rodgers is playing around pissing off people because he's pissed off, no more, no less. Give him the long term extension or at least a compromise close to it like what should have been done in the first place, and presto, no more crisis, no more cap problems, nothing but Super Bowl talk. How's that for a VALID "kool aide conclusion"?

[Bretsky]

[QUOTE=texaspackerbacker;1092624]What "kool aide conclusion"? I pointed out the fact that those receivers even other than Davante also didn't show up, which to me is solidarity with Rodgers. Why has nobody else picked up on that? Do you or anybody have another reason for it?

I also said there is no evidence to support the idea that anything is worse after the interview with that dumbass media guy. Do any of those thinking there is care to state what?

And I already discussed the NBA thing - the stupid assertion that Kawhi comes remotely close to Rodgers or Giannis level greatness. Do you see THAT as "kool aide"? Sheeeesh.

Rodgers is playing around pissing off people because he's pissed off, no more, no less. Give him the long term extension or at least a compromise close to it like what should have been done in the first place, and presto, no more crisis, no more cap problems, nothing but Super Bowl talk. How's that for a VALID "kool aide conclusion"?[/Q



Maybe I misread a bit. I think all of the receivers not showing up is a sign there are issues But nearly every press outlet around GB has been pointing that out as well. There was plenty of fuel w/o the receivers not being here.

And I agree; Gutebag either needs to grovel and breakdown, or trade him for a loot and move on

As for the NBA, I think Kawhi is still pretty elite.....but heck I didn't even read what you posted about the NBA stuff.

My kool aide reference was how I perceived you to not acknowledge how serious the shit is between AROD and GB

[Upnorth]

One reason is if rodgers does show up and one of the receivers 'broke rank' with team 12, guess who isn't getting the ball?

[SudsMcBucky]

I'd cut Funchess right now. He opted out all last year and now he thinks he can not come in for OTA's again? Not sure how good he thinks he is, but he needs to hit the open wire.

[Joemailman]

I'd cut Funchess right now. He opted out all last year and now he thinks he can not come in for OTA's again? Not sure how good he thinks he is, but he needs to hit the open wire.

If Packers were to cut a guy right after he fails to show for a voluntary OTA, I can almost guarantee they'd end up in a dispute with the NFLPA. With that other player issue they're dealing with, that's probably not a battle they want to take on.

[SudsMcBucky]

If Packers were to cut a guy right after he fails to show for a voluntary OTA, I can almost guarantee they'd end up in a dispute with the NFLPA. With that other player issue they're dealing with, that's probably not a battle they want to take on.

Oh, I agree. That was just the frustration bubbling out of me looking at a player of his limited value and attitude.

[texaspackerbacker]

[QUOTE=Bretsky;1092625]

What "kool aide conclusion"? I pointed out the fact that those receivers even other than Davante also didn't show up, which to me is solidarity with Rodgers. Why has nobody else picked up on that? Do you or anybody have another reason for it?

I also said there is no evidence to support the idea that anything is worse after the interview with that dumbass media guy. Do any of those thinking there is care to state what?

And I already discussed the NBA thing - the stupid assertion that Kawhi comes remotely close to Rodgers or Giannis level greatness. Do you see THAT as "kool aide"? Sheeeesh.

Rodgers is playing around pissing off people because he's pissed off, no more, no less. Give him the long term extension or at least a compromise close to it like what should have been done in the first place, and presto, no more crisis, no more cap problems, nothing but Super Bowl talk. How's that for a VALID "kool aide conclusion"?[/Q



Maybe I misread a bit. I think all of the receivers not showing up is a sign there are issues But nearly every press outlet around GB has been pointing that out as well. There was plenty of fuel w/o the receivers not being here.

And I agree; Gutebag either needs to grovel and breakdown, or trade him for a loot and move on

As for the NBA, I think Kawhi is still pretty elite.....but heck I didn't even read what you posted about the NBA stuff.

My kool aide reference was how I perceived you to not acknowledge how serious the shit is between AROD and GB

I didn't mean to imply that there aren't problems - I did say Rodgers is obviously pissed off with the GM, etc. and enjoying making him/them sweat. However, supposing that God damned media puke had never stirred up this trouble. What do you think the situation would be? I say this would quietly be getting negotiated out behind the scenes. Either Rodgers would have showed up at the OTAs or else he would have made some lame excuse for not being there like wedding planning or something. Literally nothing he said in that interview was very controversial, and the people further panicking or thinking "the chances got worse" of him staying with the Packers are just going off the deep end without reason or evidence. I believe Tauscher says it's about 80/20 he stays with the Packers. That's about where I have it too, maybe even more. And if they do trade him and move on, hell no to Kool-Aid. The team is in the toilet for who knows how long - I'd say minimum 5 years, maybe a generation or so.

As for the NBA thing, I was responding to CMI's idiotic comment that Rodgers' situation equates to Kawhi. Call Kawhi "elite" if you want to, but as I said somewhere, there's a half dozen or more better NBA players - IMO, and Rodgers is like Giannis - nobody better.

I don't expect Gutekunst to grovel publicly or to resign, but I do expect him to extend Rodgers and give him whatever he demands.

[bobblehead]

I agree with this and my position has changed from 75-25 he’s be back to basically 50/50 or worse. Not only did he skip OTAs, but he went on ESPN prime time and made it known he wasn’t participating for a reason. That had little to do with Kenny Mayne IMHO.

The kicker is I don’t see how Gooter comes back from this. Right, wrong or indifferent WRT draft pick, it’s very clear they didn’t handle the situation well enough.

I really don’t think he will be worth as much as people think. I think he might yield a #1 but almost certainly not two number ones. He yanked his value like Kawhi did.

I have said all along that the internet deals seemed crazy. three 1sts and Max Crosby?? As I said all along, if that is on the table you jump on it.

As for how Gutes comes back? Easy, he gets a hall and wins 11 games with Love as QB. If he wins an Owl in the next 3 years he is the clear winner.

[bobblehead]

A lot of people are reading a lot into this mess with very little knowledge. A lawyer in a trial would say, "assuming facts not in evidence". Nothing has changed for better or for worse in the past few days. Rodgers just played with the media fools in the ESPN interview, and without agreement in place, it is not unexpected that he'd fail to show up at the practice drills. The closest thing to significance that has happened is the apparent show of solidarity for Rodgers by the wide receivers. Adams would not have been expected to show up, but Valdez-Scantling, Lazard, St. Brown, even Funchess not to show up says something about what they're hoping for IMO.

CMI, as usual, you undervalue what we have and overvalue what others have. Your "Kawhi" reference, he would be something like Stafford. Rodgers equates to Giannis if anybody in the NBA. - the best of the best and meaning far more to a team than any other single player.

Show of solidarity, or confirming how incredibly petty Rodgers is by damaging their preparedness in an effort to stay in his good graces? Adams can skip these, but the rest are literally hurting their careers. They all know that if Rodgers returns and they didn't "show solidarity" he would freeze them out at a time their careers hang in the balance.

[Joemailman]

I have said all along that the internet deals seemed crazy. three 1sts and Max Crosby?? As I said all along, if that is on the table you jump on it.

As for how Gutes comes back? Easy, he gets a hall and wins 11 games with Love as QB. If he wins an Owl in the next 3 years he is the clear winner.

Yep. TT knew in 2008 that he would sink or swim with Rodgers. Same with Gute and Love.

[Joemailman]

Show of solidarity, or confirming how incredibly petty Rodgers is by damaging their preparedness in an effort to stay in his good graces? Adams can skip these, but the rest are literally hurting their careers. They all know that if Rodgers returns and they didn't "show solidarity" he would freeze them out at a time their careers hang in the balance.

There is a kool-aid explanation. They fully expect Rodgers to be back with the Packers, and figure it's a useless risk of injury and waste of time for them to be at OTA's if Rodgers isn't there.

[George Cumby]

[Tony Oday]

For once the Packers have the pieces in place to make a real run and crushing TB but AR develops a Vag.

[Sparkey]

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2021/5/28/22455560/if-packers-had-planned-to-move-on-from-aaron-rodgers-it-helps-explain-his-discontent

This article makes perfect sense to me. It also makes me wonder about the offense issues in the 4th quarter of the NFCCG when it seemed they were running a lot of spread formations.

[Upnorth]

So he plays in the system set up for him and when he does looks like an MVP? Then he gets all the leverage?
I feel like he is less valuable than I think he is.