AR wants out?!

[Rastak]

Guys, get your shit together. The contract is both ways. 1) The contract says what he gets if he shows up and makes the team 2) The contract says what happens when he doesn't show up. So does the bargaining agreement between the players and the owners.
The guy has NOT BROKEN THE CONTRACT anymore than a dude getting cut.

[sharpe1027]

If the former doesn't apply to you, then the latter must. Otherwise, why would you spew such stupidity?

I just said neither apply and explained why in my reasoning above. Happy to expand firther. What part of what I wrote do you want me to explain further?

[ThunderDan]

Guys, get your shit together. The contract is both ways. 1) The contract says what he gets if he shows up and makes the team 2) The contract says what happens when he doesn't show up. So does the bargaining agreement between the players and the owners.
The guy has NOT BROKEN THE CONTRACT anymore than a dude getting cut.

Having worked as the CPA for a handful of NFL players over my career, the contracts NFL players have aren’t worth the paper they are written on. If you aren’t on the ascending part of your career on your 2nd contract, you are treated as expendable at any time. The superstar players are maybe 45 of the 2,000 plus NFL players with the expanded practice squad space.

Regularly, the management comes to the player after the season if they had an off year, and demands they take a pay cut or they are gone. I had a client who signed his 2nd contract and was making great bank. Year 1 he was rated top 5 at his position, year 2 he was injured and player through the pain and dropped to the bottom 3rd in the league, in March he gets a call to restructure or get out.

My client took a bet on himself, he walked and resigned with another team for significantly less money as a backup for 1 year. 6 years later he is still in the league making what I consider great money but still no where near to what he made pre-injury.

[sharpe1027]

How many jobs/contracts guarantee that you won't be fired? I'd love that option, but sadly I've never been offered that option, nor do I suspect I'd ever have been able to negotiate for that perk.

I get that the NFL is a high risk reward career path, but what do people expect to happen? Players get paid for their entire contract regardless of performance, injury, ect.?

[sharpe1027]

If what Rodgers wants, and why he wants it, are the least bit reasonable, he could make a short statement and the speculation would largely be done. Moreover, I think most everyone would support him.

As is, he's letting the media go wild, even encouraging it with his cryptic comments. Now we have to endure more of the media circus Tex hates. We also have to listen to people on both sides argue about why Rodgers is or isn't justified in doing what he's doing despite not really knowing why he's doing it.

My primary issue isn't that Rodgers wants something he is willing to (maybe) hold out to get. That's his choice (whether I agree it's wise or not). I don't like the way he's going about it.

[bobblehead]

Having worked as the CPA for a handful of NFL players over my career, the contracts NFL players have aren’t worth the paper they are written on. If you aren’t on the ascending part of your career on your 2nd contract, you are treated as expendable at any time. The superstar players are maybe 45 of the 2,000 plus NFL players with the expanded practice squad space.

Regularly, the management comes to the player after the season if they had an off year, and demands they take a pay cut or they are gone. I had a client who signed his 2nd contract and was making great bank. Year 1 he was rated top 5 at his position, year 2 he was injured and player through the pain and dropped to the bottom 3rd in the league, in March he gets a call to restructure or get out.

My client took a bet on himself, he walked and resigned with another team for significantly less money as a backup for 1 year. 6 years later he is still in the league making what I consider great money but still no where near to what he made pre-injury.

This is all part of the give and take of the collective bargaining agreement. Its also factored into every decision a player makes (or should be). Rodgers took the huge signing bonus and the contract that came with it. He now has a choice to play or sit. The team laid out that cash upfront to get his name on the line. They now have a choice to honor the terms or cut him free and eat the bonus. Thats the way it works. Its what they negotiated. It is very unfair to the bottom 2000 and overly fair to the upper 50. The players wanted it that way, not the owners. The players could negotiate for guaranteed contracts if that was their priority. They did not.

[texaspackerbacker]

Or you could just ignore the God damned media. I listen to Larry McCarren and McAfee - who are hardly what I'd call media - and a little bit to one or two others on YouTube, and even them I take with a grain of salt. Why the hell should Rodgers do any talking at this point? Presumably, negotiations are ongoing, so why rock the boat or give away his position. I would expect that a deal acceptable to Rodgers is already on the table, and as I said a couple of times, he's just letting the broken front office sweat for a while before coming in. Furthermore, I'd bet that Davante and a couple others like A.J. Hawk or Kuhn know all about this but similarly keeping quiet about it.

The bottom line is still R-E-L-A-X, everything is gonna be all right, and we're gonna have Aaron Rodgers playing for the Packers a minimum of 3 more years, and hopefully a good deal more. And if Justin Love is worth keeping, we have him all that time too, ready to take over when Rodgers finally is done.

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How many jobs/contracts guarantee that you won't be fired? I'd love that option, but sadly I've never been offered that option, nor do I suspect I'd ever have been able to negotiate for that perk.

I get that the NFL is a high risk reward career path, but what do people expect to happen? Players get paid for their entire contract regardless of performance, injury, ect.?

most of us are also able to leave our jobs and go find work elsewhere whenever we want, even if its for the competition

if a player signs a contract one year, then the team cleans house and brings in a whole group of assholes that you just can't stand, do you just have to sit there and take it?

in the nfl you have to

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This is all part of the give and take of the collective bargaining agreement. Its also factored into every decision a player makes (or should be). Rodgers took the huge signing bonus and the contract that came with it. He now has a choice to play or sit. The team laid out that cash upfront to get his name on the line. They now have a choice to honor the terms or cut him free and eat the bonus. Thats the way it works. Its what they negotiated. It is very unfair to the bottom 2000 and overly fair to the upper 50. The players wanted it that way, not the owners. The players could negotiate for guaranteed contracts if that was their priority. They did not.

the cba is just terrible for the players, and every time they renegotiate it they just end with extra scraps instead of fixing the big issues

[texaspackerbacker]

Yet they get to play a fun kids game and get paid rock bottom minimum close to a $Million. I wish I could get exploited like that hahahahaha.

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Yet they get to play a fun kids game and get paid rock bottom minimum close to a $Million. I wish I could get exploited like that hahahahaha.

and the owners get to make billions by owning the team names and making huge money off a kids game. hell most don't even own the buildings they play and practice in

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a question

would it change anything if a-rod goes on TV and does a tell all?

seems a lot of people are hating on rodgers because he isn't saying anything. what if he does tell us that a first year GM told him to GTFO of his office any worry about just playing. what if he WAS told that he would be traded only for the team to change his mind.

would that change anything for anyone, or not?

[RashanGary]

a question

would it change anything if a-rod goes on TV and does a tell all?

seems a lot of people are hating on rodgers because he isn't saying anything. what if he does tell us that a first year GM told him to GTFO of his office any worry about just playing. what if he WAS told that he would be traded only for the team to change his mind.

would that change anything for anyone, or not?

Rodgers said he’s unhappy with how the organization handles people. In the same conversation he said that he didn’t like how they drafted his replacement and he went on to an MVP season to show them they were wrong in doing it. I think it’s fairly obvious he’s watched Nelson, Graham and other good friends just get the cold axe and he sees the writing on the wall that they’d do it to him too.

Soooo..... in a no loyalty business, Rodgers feels management is wrong in how they cut people and wrong in how they look to replace people. And wrong in trying to replace him.

He skipped OTAs to let them know he’s not impressed.

This is something he’ll eventually swallow. At least he got his “fuck you” in and that makes him feel better.

He’ll be back. Bet on it. And once he gets around the guys he’ll bond with them and try to win a title. It’s gonna happen.

[texaspackerbacker]

and the owners get to make billions by owning the team names and making huge money off a kids game. hell most don't even own the buildings they play and practice in

So What!

[texaspackerbacker]

RG, both here and in the other thread, you make more sense than anybody else - except for me, of course hahahahaha.