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  • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
    Twitter was going off about it too. The Packers are moving forward being the Packers regardless of what a complicated player might want or think. I don’t see anything wrong with that or anything the Packers have said or done since this started.

    I don't think AROD is going to win the public opinion battle if everything he's unhappy about would be mapped out. Most of us would feel that isn't his job to be pissed at how GB treated Jordy.............and other things.

    But Marcia should shut his pothole IMO
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    • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
      It’s weird cuz Rodgers wants longer term security to not be traded off or cast aside, but he’s making it really easy to move on if Love starts panning out. If Love isn’t panning out, Rodgers just makes it really weird.

      I support Rodgers reasons but I don’t see how he’s helping himself even a little bit.
      I agree except that I don't support his reasons. Its a job. Be better than everyone else and you will have one. If Rodgers stays elite they would probably let him play out his entire contract. Only if Love passed him (as happens with every athlete in time) would they move on.

      So its real simple if your Aaron. Be better than Love. What he is doing is NOT helping his overall situation (unless he really wants forcing a trade and being remembered as a Bronco as his legacy).
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      • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
        I don't think AROD is going to win the public opinion battle if everything he's unhappy about would be mapped out. Most of us would feel that isn't his job to be pissed at how GB treated Jordy.............and other things.

        But Marcia should shut his pothole IMO
        I agree to an extent. I recall TT also said "I'm only here to talk about the players who are in camp" or under contract, or anything to that effect. Its a lesson the brass should learn.

        "we love aaron and want him back as our QB, but until he is in camp we have nothing further to add"
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        • Yeah, all of this is just not that big a deal. Blaming this one, blaming that one in the organization is just kinda stupid and the crap outsiders do - that's basically what all of them are saying, summed up as BFD.

          If the news media idiot who kicked off this whole shitstorm had said, "Aaron just wants to take some extra time to vacation in Hawaii with Shailene. He thinks he can be just as ready without mini-camp, and it will help Justin's progress to get the reps", instead of intentionally stirring up trouble with the irrelevant and possibly bogus shit that he did, then there would be maybe 2% of the silly shit being spewed by know-nothings in here and elsewhere, and that line would probably have been just as true as what the bastard did write.
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          • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
            What did Murphy say?
            No, I meant that Rodgers isnt talking about it hourly, but he chose the worst time for the org to bring it up. That wasn't an accident.
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            This is museum quality stupidity.

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            • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
              I don't think AROD is going to win the public opinion battle if everything he's unhappy about would be mapped out. Most of us would feel that isn't his job to be pissed at how GB treated Jordy.............and other things.

              But Marcia should shut his pothole IMO
              We’re pretty much reading the same types of things Rodgers is probably pissed about. He said it’s a problem in how they handle “people” at the top. He said in drafting Love, they didn’t expect him to win the MVP, suggesting he’s another one of the “people” getting done dirty. James Jones added that Rodgers is upset about how they move on from some guys. I think Jordy would be at the very top of the list of people done wrong, among others. But the #1 people he’s pissed at being done dirty right now it’s him. He won MVP and they don’t want to extend him at the time in his career when he has 1 more shot at a huge pay day.

              I differ with you in that I like the way Murphy is backing his guys and putting it on Aaron. At the end of the day they have a tough business to run and they’re open and honest about running a business. Doesn’t mean I like business. I still understand Rodgers. But what are they gonna do, stop trying to win because it hurts guys to cut them?? They can’t really do that. So back your guys. He’s doing that. Good on him.
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              • Rodgers is doing nothing to protect the organization right now. He went so far as to say, they don’t handle people right. If Murphy says Rodgers is complicated, suggesting it’s hard to please everyone, he has every right to do so and probably is responsible to be the guy who does so. It’s a good move by Murphy. He’s subtly protecting the Packers, who Rodgers is throwing under the bus.
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                • Is it his job to "protect the organization"? Did Rodgers say "they don't handle people right"? Or did he just make a few meaningless off-the-cuff remarks that panicky people are running to daylight with? Did Murphy say anything significant? Or did he just respond offhandedly to some stupid and speculative questions and comments?
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                  • I can understand people siding with Rodgers, even if for no other reason than it's easier for them to relate to a person than an organization. However, people criticizing Murphy for calling Rodgers complicated - a statement which is absolutely true and was a reference to a comment TT made about Rodgers - are kind of dumb. There are actually people calling for Murphy to be fired based on Rodgers being upset alone. It's laughable. Rodgers will probably play for the team for fewer than three more seasons. And Murphy will remain team president well beyond then, by my guess. It does not make sense and people that actually believe it needs to happen need to look in the mirror if they can, or go kick rocks.

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                    • People siding with Rodgers over the organization? Why would we not? Rodgers is primarily responsible for virtually all of the pleasure we derive from Packer success. All of that would be a whole lot less without him. You can't say the same for an outsider like Murphy or Gutekunst. The team and our enjoyment of it would be no worse at all without Murphy, and arguably would be a lot better off depending on how good a job you think he has done. Ditto that for Gutekunst. He seems to have done a really good job of drafting this year, and he either did a shitty job or not last year depending on your point of view. Arguably, almost any professional, though, and probably a whole lot of people like us could have done just as good a job of drafting and GMing in general.
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                      • Tex, you are delusional.

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                        • Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                          People siding with Rodgers over the organization? Why would we not? Rodgers is primarily responsible for virtually all of the pleasure we derive from Packer success. All of that would be a whole lot less without him. You can't say the same for an outsider like Murphy or Gutekunst. The team and our enjoyment of it would be no worse at all without Murphy, and arguably would be a lot better off depending on how good a job you think he has done. Ditto that for Gutekunst. He seems to have done a really good job of drafting this year, and he either did a shitty job or not last year depending on your point of view. Arguably, almost any professional, though, and probably a whole lot of people like us could have done just as good a job of drafting and GMing in general.
                          I saw a list of free agents that the fans have clamored for over the past few years and what they would give up for them. It is not an all star list and probably the best one is will fuller suspended for ped. People wanted to give snacks harrison 8 mil a year. Antonio brown, the guy who made the bucs o worse when he was on the field, was soooo important. And that is the best options from last year. It gets way worse. No the fans as GM would kill the franchise in max 2 years.
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                          • I guess I should have said most of us, not the fans you're talking about hahahahaha. I sure wasn't "clamoring" for any of them.
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                            • Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                              I guess I should have said most of us, not the fans you're talking about hahahahaha. I sure wasn't "clamoring" for any of them.
                              It's not as simple as taking a few positions on players on an online forum. That you think most anyone here could be successful is delusional. I don't mean to be a jerk and call you names, but that's completely bonkers in my opinion. Just really out of touch with reality.

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                              • Keep AR on the roster, dont trade, either play for the Pack or sit.
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