AR wants out?!

[Zool]

Except, he couldn't be traded then. It isn't a silver bullet for ARod. If he truly is trying to get off of the Packers this year and permanently, he would completely screw himself. He would have no value to any team at that point.

Maybe he should come out and say what it is he wants so fans can stop thinking about it. I mean, without the fans, there's $240M in his bank account.

[King Friday]

Aaron Rodgers could opt out by July 2nd and keep all his $$$.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-for-2021/amp/

This is good for Green Bay. It forces Rodgers to basically show his hand to the public within a weeks time. If he doesn't opt out, then it proves that Rodgers knows he can't lose a full year in his prime and that he is probably open to working with Green Bay on reconciliation. If he does opt out, then the Packers know the bridge is burned and they are moving forward with Love. Choosing to not opt out is going to make a training camp holdout lose a ton of merit.

I've said this before, but it merits repeating. Aaron Rodgers earns more in endorsements than he does from his football salary. Those endorsements lose significant value if he isn't playing football. You can damn well guarantee State Farm ain't gonna pay him 7 figures to pimp their insurance if he sits out the whole year. That is precisely why they have Mahomes in the mix too. Rodgers stands to lose a lot of money outside of the Packers salary if he sits out next season.

[Fritz]

This is good for Green Bay. It forces Rodgers to basically show his hand to the public within a weeks time. If he doesn't opt out, then it proves that Rodgers knows he can't lose a full year in his prime and that he is probably open to working with Green Bay on reconciliation. If he does opt out, then the Packers know the bridge is burned and they are moving forward with Love. Choosing to not opt out is going to make a training camp holdout lose a ton of merit.

I've said this before, but it merits repeating. Aaron Rodgers earns more in endorsements than he does from his football salary. Those endorsements lose significant value if he isn't playing football. You can damn well guarantee State Farm ain't gonna pay him 7 figures to pimp their insurance if he sits out the whole year. That is precisely why they have Mahomes in the mix too. Rodgers stands to lose a lot of money outside of the Packers salary if he sits out next season.

I think this actually could be a good thing for the Packers and for Rodgers, too. As you write, it forces Rodgers to show his hand - something he has been loathe to do. Now, that "could be" is dependent upon how this is all structured and how it goes down. If Rodgers must inform the league by Friday the 2nd, and he waits until the last second to do so, the Packers are screwed. And I think Rodgers wants to screw the team. All the team can do is shrug, move on, and remind Rodgers that they still have him under contract for 2022.

If he informs the Packers ahead of time that he intends to opt out, that gives them one week to trade him. They have some leverage - they can tell teams if they don't like the offers, they'll just play without Rodgers for the year, and I think after that he's still under contract with Green Bay. That would give them some return on Rodgers and he can play for another team, as he seems to wish to do.

If he does not opt out, he costs himself money and keeps things muddy. If he continues to play passive/aggressive and if the team does not make some public moves to reconciliate with him, that would be bad. That would be the worst scenario, in my opinion.

[CaptainKickass]

...that would be bad. That would be the worst scenario, in my opinion.

No Fritz

THIS is the würst case scenario!

[Upnorth]

No Fritz

THIS is the würst case scenario!

What's the warranty on that?
That is some nice looking slip joint pliers

[red]

So, this is the nuclear option.

If he's really serious about never playing for the Packers again, and they won't trade him then he is left with 2 options. Retire and give back a bunch of money, or opt out and keep it

I can see him doing it. It would be a dick move on his part, but it would be a dick move by the team to go after bonus money in the first place

[red]

I think this actually could be a good thing for the Packers and for Rodgers, too. As you write, it forces Rodgers to show his hand - something he has been loathe to do. Now, that "could be" is dependent upon how this is all structured and how it goes down. If Rodgers must inform the league by Friday the 2nd, and he waits until the last second to do so, the Packers are screwed. And I think Rodgers wants to screw the team. All the team can do is shrug, move on, and remind Rodgers that they still have him under contract for 2022.

If he informs the Packers ahead of time that he intends to opt out, that gives them one week to trade him. They have some leverage - they can tell teams if they don't like the offers, they'll just play without Rodgers for the year, and I think after that he's still under contract with Green Bay. That would give them some return on Rodgers and he can play for another team, as he seems to wish to do.

If he does not opt out, he costs himself money and keeps things muddy. If he continues to play passive/aggressive and if the team does not make some public moves to reconciliate with him, that would be bad. That would be the worst scenario, in my opinion.

Seems pretty obvious that the team has known forr at least the whole off-season what his intensions are, and the team damn well showed they knew his intensions by sending everyone in the building to fly out there and talk him back

[red]

Except, he couldn't be traded then. It isn't a silver bullet for ARod. If he truly is trying to get off of the Packers this year and permanently, he would completely screw himself. He would have no value to any team at that point.

I think you could say that by the team not trading him before the draft that they had already killed the market for him for this year

[ThunderDan]

I think you could say that by the team not trading him before the draft that they had already killed the market for him for this year

I don’t think so. You could still get a nice bunch of draft picks and a player.

I think the Packers saying they won’t trade him is the reality from the team’s stand point. We aren’t trading ARod this year. It’s now up to ARod to decide if he is coming back or sitting out the year.

[Joemailman]

If he's not coming back, the best time to trade Rodgers would be after the season and before the draft. By waiting until after the season, you have a better idea of what you'll be getting in terms of draft picks. Plus, you'll probably have quite a few teams looking to upgrade their QB situation. The more teams you have interested in Rodgers, the better deal you should be able to get.

I could see the following teams possibly looking for a QB after the 2021 season:

Houston
Denver
Carolina
Miami (depending on how Tua does)
N.Y. Giants
Detroit
Indianapolis
New Orleans
Washington
Philadelphia
Oakland
Tampa Bay (if Brady retires)

[Fritz]

I don’t think so. You could still get a nice bunch of draft picks and a player.

I think the Packers saying they won’t trade him is the reality from the team’s stand point. We aren’t trading ARod this year. It’s now up to ARod to decide if he is coming back or sitting out the year.

If I understand how it all works, if Arod opts out this season due to Covid, he keeps his money but then next year he's still under contract with the Packers. If he retires and sits for a year, on the other hand, he could un-retire after one year and be a free agent. Is that correct?

I wonder if maybe he's going to just sit out and thus drag this all out and make it as ugly as he can. It seems at times that his goal is not resolution but punishment.

[Sparkey]

If I understand how it all works, if Arod opts out this season due to Covid, he keeps his money but then next year he's still under contract with the Packers. If he retires and sits for a year, on the other hand, he could un-retire after one year and be a free agent. Is that correct?

I wonder if maybe he's going to just sit out and thus drag this all out and make it as ugly as he can. It seems at times that his goal is not resolution but punishment.

If the player decides to come back within the contract period, the team owns the rights to that player.

[jklowan]

If I understand how it all works, if Arod opts out this season due to Covid, he keeps his money but then next year he's still under contract with the Packers. If he retires and sits for a year, on the other hand, he could un-retire after one year and be a free agent. Is that correct?

I wonder if maybe he's going to just sit out and thus drag this all out and make it as ugly as he can. It seems at times that his goal is not resolution but punishment.

ProFootballTalk.com reports Aaron Rodgers could save $18.3 million in unearned signing bonus money and roster bonus money if he opts out of the 2021 season by July 2.

It's a new wrinkle in the NFL MVP's offseason saga, and one that should cause tremendous heartburn in the Packers' front office. An agreement between the league and the player's union struck this week grants "broad powers to all players to opt out of the 2021 season, regardless of whether they opted out in 2020 or whether they have been diagnosed with a higher-risk condition since October 1, 2020." Last year, dozens of players opted out of the season due to COVID-19 concerns. The Packers have been crystal clear that they will not trade Rodgers. He'll play for Green Bay or no one in 2021. Jordan Love, meanwhile, has taken almost all of the first-team reps in Green Bay offseason practices, making up for his lack of reps during the COVID-shortened 2020 offseason. Love under center this season would be a major hit to the fantasy value of all Packers skill position players.

[George Cumby]

If he opts out for Covid, he will be a first ballot inductee to the Passive-Aggressive Hall of Fame.

[jklowan]

If Aaron Rodgers stays away from the #Packers for the entire 2021 season, he stands to lose:
– $500,000 workout bonus
– $93,085 minicamp fines
– $2.05M training camp fines
– $14.7M base salary lost
– $6.8M roster bonus unpaid
– $11.5M signing bonus recouped
Total: $35,643,085
— Spotrac (@spotrac) June 11, 2021