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  • Based on this breaking today and seeing JSO writers run with it makes me think the Packers leaked this knowing he isn't coming to camp? We shall see. One week left. This all is so silly.

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    • I'd be very surprised if he did come to camp, especially at the beginning of camp, and even if Shefter is a worthless lying bastard, the story of the extension offer being rejected might be true, but that is far from a bad ending to the story. Whatever Rodgers wants he will either get ultimately or else a compromise a lot closer to it than this supposed offer. The term "extension" implies that the two years comes at the end of the 2 or 3 he is currently under contract for. Does anybody know if that is the case? Or if it was just some kind of a guaranteeing or "no cut or trade" provision added to the current deal?

      My prediction, I say again, is that he comes in with a deal in place to his liking, a week or two before the first regular season game.
      What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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      • Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
        I'd be very surprised if he did come to camp, especially at the beginning of camp, and even if Shefter is a worthless lying bastard, the story of the extension offer being rejected might be true, but that is far from a bad ending to the story. Whatever Rodgers wants he will either get ultimately or else a compromise a lot closer to it than this supposed offer. The term "extension" implies that the two years comes at the end of the 2 or 3 he is currently under contract for. Does anybody know if that is the case? Or if it was just some kind of a guaranteeing or "no cut or trade" provision added to the current deal?

        My prediction, I say again, is that he comes in with a deal in place to his liking, a week or two before the first regular season game.
        This only works if Jordan Love looks bad while Rodgers is not at camp, If he looks good it lessens his leverage imho, 4 million a year looks a lot better than 40 when your trying to fill out the roster beyond the QB position. This is a dangerous game Rodgers is playing and it might bite him in the ass. I am a Packers fan and only want us to win, that being said I hope this ends soon as I am sick of it already. GO PACK GO!!! Reports out of the session he had with Watson and Fields are that he looked great and that is coming from Fields trainer.

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        • Any offers were such that we can trade him next year, until I hear different. Brandt's opinion too.

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          • Right I would just say that we don't know the terms of the offer. Did the the terms basically guarantee he'd be *here* for 5 years? I doubt he'd turn that down if so unless he really is just sick of shit and wants to either A) move for personal reasons or B) feels another team will give him more control and/or better chance to win.

            I am very skeptical that the terms of the contract were as described. We don't know guaranteed money, annual structure, etc.

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            • Originally posted by jklowan View Post
              This only works if Jordan Love looks bad while Rodgers is not at camp, If he looks good it lessens his leverage imho, 4 million a year looks a lot better than 40 when your trying to fill out the roster beyond the QB position. This is a dangerous game Rodgers is playing and it might bite him in the ass. I am a Packers fan and only want us to win, that being said I hope this ends soon as I am sick of it already. GO PACK GO!!! Reports out of the session he had with Watson and Fields are that he looked great and that is coming from Fields trainer.
              Do you seriously think anybody in the team leadership seriously thinks the Packers can win it all with Love at QB - even if he does turn out to be way above average for a young QB? And Watson and Fields? Is that Dashaun and Justin? I didn't hear about such a workout if that's what you mean, but it sounds encouraging.
              What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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              • If I am AR, I'm pissed.

                Ten years of mediocrity except 2014 and now he has a legit contender and they want to retire him after an MVP season. Nothing reported (and believable) contradicts that the FO wants the option to move him after this year. The FO are in on Love. As I've stated, imo AR is another level than any QB to play before. Brady has always relied heavily on his defense. Not that he isn't a great QB (but very different), but winning rings is largely luck. It takes a whole team. I think a lot of people are not seeing this from AR's viewpoint. He feels he did all he could to show he wanted to stay and put up an MVP season. He has tread left and his arm is still one of the best in the league. Anyways, hope he comes back a year. It would be good to see him win a ring before he leaves.

                I could see AR coming back for a year and taking Davante with him to Denver, but his best spot is GB or (past tense now) San Fran.

                Love's biggest question is how he sees the field and processes. That's a big question. And we won't know til he takes the field. He has all the tools and the highest ceiling of any QB last year.

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                • At the golf match, AR hinted he would make a decision by next week.

                  We'll see.

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                  • It's pretty obvious what's happened, and I stated this several months ago. When the Packers drafted Love, Rodgers was coming off back-to-back mediocre seasons (playing at a Kirk Cousins level). They drafted a guy they liked as insurance. I think the original idea was to give Rodgers a couple of years and then turn to Love, if he was ready. The Packers were never going to move on from Rodgers this offseason. After his MVP year, the Packers were willing to give him basically a guarantee of two more years. He declined the offer. The Packers won't, and shouldn't, hamstring themselves financial for a 40-year-old QB (i.e. give Rodgers more than two years basically guaranteed). Now knowing they basically offered him a second guaranteed year (which I think he deserved), I don't have a problem at all with how Gutey has handled this.
                    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                    • Originally posted by Jaire View Post
                      If I am AR, I'm pissed.

                      Ten years of mediocrity except 2014 and now he has a legit contender and they want to retire him after an MVP season.
                      Cry me a river. Gutey has built a team around Rodgers that is a legit championship contender, and he went all in this offseason.
                      "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                      • Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                        Do you seriously think anybody in the team leadership seriously thinks the Packers can win it all with Love at QB - even if he does turn out to be way above average for a young QB? And Watson and Fields? Is that Dashaun and Justin? I didn't hear about such a workout if that's what you mean, but it sounds encouraging.
                        Yes, I think they do. They probably dream of the talent they can add around Love with the xtra 30 million in cap space

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                        • Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                          Do you seriously think anybody in the team leadership seriously thinks the Packers can win it all with Love at QB - even if he does turn out to be way above average for a young QB? And Watson and Fields? Is that Dashaun and Justin? I didn't hear about such a workout if that's what you mean, but it sounds encouraging.
                          TEX you are going to be wrong I think ...LOVE may just be ready

                          https://heavy.com/sports/green-bay-packers/jordan-love-ready-replace-aaron-rodgers/?fbclid=IwAR2_MLSJeg-wGotaSiZoFJoSaEGbee3XprOeXQXHe4TvQkP-I7_1f18ekOI



                          Last edited by jklowan; 07-21-2021, 11:00 AM.

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                          • Originally posted by jklowan View Post
                            This only works if Jordan Love looks bad while Rodgers is not at camp, If he looks good it lessens his leverage imho, 4 million a year looks a lot better than 40 when your trying to fill out the roster beyond the QB position. This is a dangerous game Rodgers is playing and it might bite him in the ass. I am a Packers fan and only want us to win, that being said I hope this ends soon as I am sick of it already. GO PACK GO!!! Reports out of the session he had with Watson and Fields are that he looked great and that is coming from Fields trainer.
                            But the Packers only get that 40M cap relief (or some large number) if they release Rodgers, right? That is victory for AR.

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                            • Originally posted by jklowan View Post
                              TEX you are going to be wrong
                              like predicting the green bananas will turn yellow

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                              • Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
                                But the Packers only get that 40M cap relief (or some large number) if they release Rodgers, right? That is victory for AR.
                                Nope, they get relief if he retires.
                                But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                                -Tim Harmston

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