AR wants out?!

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Is that what Rodgers wants? You know this how?

one of aarons best friends is on a nationally broadcast radio show every single day (aj hawk). if rodgers wanted anything to be said, he would simply tell AJ what he wanted to get out there. every single day AJ is asked if he knows anything new, and every single day AJ says, "nope"

its the packers front office putting all of this info out there in order to drive the the story and make it look like they are doing everything they can while rodgers continues to be unreasonable

rodgers just had a whole 4 or 5 hour golf show devoted to him and 3 others. he had every chance to run his mouth and bitch as much as he wants, he didn't say anything about it

if things are as bad as some people out there think, then "leaks" from the team, like the team offering him a new contract and him turning it down is only going to make the situation worse. and why would the team try and make things worse unless they know its over?

it will not surprise me if rodgers announces his retirement either right before the shareholders meeting, or right after the meeting in which the shareholders do not force murphy and or gutey to step down

or he may just show up to camp like nothing has happened

but i'm not gonna sit here like some of you and think, without really knowing anything, "there's absolutely no way this will happen or that"

[RashanGary]

ok, name one thing that team has done that rodgers wanted?

and giving him employment and paying him a fair market rate isn't caving in to his demands

maybe getting rid of fat mike, which would be a huge one, but thats about all i can think of

He had the Kenny Mayne interview where he said not just him but in general they have a people problem with the management. Players not being treated fairly. Jordy, Kumerow, etc, and then drafting Love are presumable examples. He doesn’t like how the team is run. That’s obvious. And now his gfs mom agreeing with Steven A about Rodgers being disrespected.

Rodgers may have to just deal with it. The Packers can’t let 12 run the show. It could get ugly. Or he could play one more year, they’re ready for Love and they move on next year. It’s hard to say what’s going to happen but Rodgers running the front office and making sure players are being treated right can’t really happen or the Packers might as well kiss their success goodbye. Rodgers position makes running the team complicated and sketchy. They just can’t do that.

[RashanGary]

How would you make Rodgers happy?

Give him final say on draft choices and roster decisions. Those are the things he’s upset about.


Things the Packers just can’t do?

Give Rodgers final say on personnel


How will it all settle out? We’ll see.


We do know Rodgers is a complicated fella and in order to be satisfied the team needs to be run a certain way to be “people oriented.” Another way of saying that is Rodgers is pissed unless they run the team his way. The end is near.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Players not being treated fairly. Jordy, Kumerow, etc, and then drafting Love are presumable examples.

None of these are examples of players being treated unfairly. It's a brutal business. NFL uses-up and spits out players more than any other sport. The hard salary cap makes it worse. There is no warm and caring NFL GM.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Another way of saying that is Rodgers is pissed unless they run the team his way. The end is near.

Just becuz AR is pissed doesn't mean he won't perform on Sundays. AR holds no cards and is not going anywhere, IMO.

[Harlan Huckleby]

but i'm not gonna sit here like some of you and think, without really knowing anything, "there's absolutely no way this will happen or that"

Go fuck yourself. I know the scene, gene.

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How would you make Rodgers happy?

Give him final say on draft choices and roster decisions. Those are the things he’s upset about.


Things the Packers just can’t do?

Give Rodgers final say on personnel


How will it all settle out? We’ll see.


We do know Rodgers is a complicated fella and in order to be satisfied the team needs to be run a certain way to be “people oriented.” Another way of saying that is Rodgers is pissed unless they run the team his way. The end is near.

no one is saying to give him total control over the roster, but maybe the team should listen to some of his input since he runs the offence.

from what we've heard, he tried to give some input and was told to shut his fucking mouth and worry about just throwing the ball

guess what, other teams do ask some of their players what they think of other players. its not unheard of

you think a QB shouldn't have some kinda input on what kind of WR or TE he wants. what kind of players would work best in his system?

[RashanGary]

Just becuz AR is pissed doesn't mean he won't perform on Sundays. AR holds no cards and is not going anywhere, IMO.

I put it at 65% chance he comes back for TC and 35% chance it’s part way though TC. I agree he has to play.

[RashanGary]

no one is saying to give him total control over the roster, but maybe the team should listen to some of his input since he runs the offence.

from what we've heard, he tried to give some input and was told to shut his fucking mouth and worry about just throwing the ball

guess what, other teams do ask some of their players what they think of other players. its not unheard of

you think a QB shouldn't have some kinda input on what kind of WR or TE he wants. what kind of players would work best in his system?

Maybe they hear his opinions and disagree? Outside of giving him final say when a disagreement arises, I don’t know if there’s a way to please that guy. It’s his way or the highway. Unfortunately for him, a life long personnel guy was given the job and he’s not getting the final decision in the offenses personnel moves.

[RashanGary]

I understand where 12 is coming from.

I don’t like cold business and don’t like the American way. But the way it’s set up, they have no choice but to make decisions to win and no choice but to trust their process. Handing those decisions over to 12 would be asinine. So I side with management here in them making decisions to win for themselves.

[Bretsky]

Saw somebody on facebook note how AROD's wife to be shared via media a rant on one of the ESPN Blowhards (I think Stephen A Smith) hammering on the Packers management. If true, that's crappy

[call_me_ishmael]

Saw somebody on facebook note how AROD's wife to be shared via media a rant on one of the ESPN Blowhards (I think Stephen A Smith) hammering on the Packers management. If true, that's crappy

100% true. Not so sure that it's crappy but it isn't a good sign. I am keenly interested if Rodgers shows up. I don't know what I think. I go back and forth.

This is an entertaining read.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/did-the-packers-back-out-of-trading-aaron-rodgers-to-the-broncos/

[call_me_ishmael]

Maybe they hear his opinions and disagree? Outside of giving him final say when a disagreement arises, I don’t know if there’s a way to please that guy. It’s his way or the highway. Unfortunately for him, a life long personnel guy was given the job and he’s not getting the final decision in the offenses personnel moves.

Maybe so, but does anyone really think joe blow who no one even knows his name would be significantly better than Kumerow? If the star player likes him, why would you do that?

Giannis' brother doesn't belong on an NBA roster but the Bucks aren't fucking stupid, everyone and their mother knows why Thannis is on the roster and that is to keep more money in the family's pocket and to keep Giannis happy. No way would they EVER have released him before Giannis signed that big contract.

That is the sort of thing you do for stars. What have the Packers done for Rodgers? They paid him probably less money than he'd make from other teams, etc.

[texaspackerbacker]

I put it at 65% chance he comes back for TC and 35% chance it’s part way though TC. I agree he has to play.

I sort of agree, but I'd switch around the 35% and 65%.

I saw the Kenny Mayne interview, and he really didn't say anything controversial or significant at all. I don't really know what he wants because he hasn't said - duh. I'm pretty sure, though, it's not final say on personnel matters. The guy ain't dumb, and that would be unrealistic. Wanting but not expecting them to get rid of Murphy is realistic. It would tend to explain his silent protest.

Wouldn't that be something if the shareholders meeting came along, and somebody put it on the agenda to get rid of Murphy? What a meeting that would be hahahaha. Do Packer shares of ownership come with voting rights? anybody know for sure? I know there are thousands of owners, but does anybody know if there are any of them who own like a few thousand shares or a significant percentage? I'm pretty sure it's a closed corporation, so somebody, Rodgers for example, couldn't easily just buy a couple hundred thousand shares, right?

I still think they're all gonna come to an agreement, and he's gonna come in just before the regular season and be in Green Bay for at least a few more years.

[ThunderDan]

Wouldn't that be something if the shareholders meeting came along, and somebody put it on the agenda to get rid of Murphy? What a meeting that would be hahahaha. Do Packer shares of ownership come with voting rights? anybody know for sure? I know there are thousands of owners, but does anybody know if there are any of them who own like a few thousand shares or a significant percentage? I'm pretty sure it's a closed corporation, so somebody, Rodgers for example, couldn't easily just buy a couple hundred thousand shares, right?

The shares are worthless souvenirs for the fans. There are no voting rights with the shares. The shares can't be sold.

The Packers has a Board of Directors that "runs" the team. They voted for MM to be CEO/President. MM is held accountable only by the Board. MM runs the franchise the way he sees fit.