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  • #31
    Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    Ask your buddy about this third Georgia Corner. Yes, they actually have another guy in today's list of top Corners available, and I'm ready for the Packers to draft another Corner in the 4th or 5th. Chasing the Badger Wildgoose also wouldn't be a bad idea.

    AND THE BIG DT ISAIAH
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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    • #32
      Seems like he's a pretty good man corner with length (if not strength) to press. Staley and Pettine both played a lot of zone, so I wonder about fit. I like him best of the UGA CBs, and he's held up well vs. SEC WRs who are often as talented as what he'll face on Sunday.
      Better athlete than football player right now, but seems like he's got a good head on his shoulders and he's only played corner for a few years so he's still got room to develop.

      I don't hate the pick. They needed a corner and I think he helps them. King, Jackson, and Sullivan are basically on one year deals at this point so they need more depth.

      The instant grades thing is dumb -- we won't know for 2-3 years -- but it feels like a B grade. Didn't knock it out of the park, but didn't screw it up and draft a QB/TE/RB from Pewaukee Community College.

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      • #33
        Wildgoose seems like a corner for a bygone era. Maybe I'm wrong.

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        • #34
          NFC scout: “He’s got great recovery skills. He’s got a knack for the interception. He just stands out. He started out as a running back and track guy. Then he quit the track team to focus on football. He’s got good toughness. He’s a physical tackler. He’s an exceptional special-teamer. There’s high upside with this guy. Late-first or early-second round.”

          AFC scout: “He has the same grade as (fellow Georgia CB Tyson) Campbell. Stokes is skinnier than Campbell, but he is really instinctive and is a click faster. He’s the fastest guy of the (cornerback) group.”

          NFC scout: “He can’t catch, but he can run fast. He’s big and athletic. He goes between 30 and 45.”

          NFC scout: “I like him, but he has worse ball skills than Campbell. Watch his pro day. He has more interceptions than Campbell, so the ball might find him, but he’ll never be a natural at it. … If he gets balls where he can track it and doesn’t have to get his eyes to it late, he’ll catch those. If he has to get his eyes to it late, he’ll have problems with those. Is he first-round worthy? Probably late, or early in the second.”

          AFC scout: “I don’t like him as much as some people. I didn’t even see second round.”

          NFC scout: “He was up and down in his career. He was a little bit better this year. His big issue is transition quickness, when he’s in off coverage, getting out of his backpedal, planting and driving back toward the receiver for the ball. Another way to say it is matching routes. His ability to match routes when he’s in zone was off. His deep-ball skills were really inconsistent.”

          AFC scout: “He’s Stanford Routt. He’s stiff. He’s a track guy playing football. Now, he can play press. He has height and speed. Sprinters are straight-line guys. Fourth or fifth round.”

          NFC scout: “(I) like him. I’d take him over (Caleb) Farley. He’s big, too, and he’s smooth. He’s got excellent feel and body control. Just a natural at what he does. Press stuff is easy for him. When he’s off, he’s got instant change of direction. His length kind of saves him.”

          AFC scout: “He needs to improve his ball skills. The height/weight/speed (combo) is going to be too hard to pass up.”

          NFC scout: “I’d like to take a shot on him because he can really fly.”

          AFC scout: “He’s a starter. He just doesn’t take the ball away the way other guys do.”

          AFC scout: “He’s twitched up and he’s fast. Little bit of a track body. I like him. The speed might push him over because at that position, people will gamble.”

          NFC scout: “He ran 4.2 something. Somebody might take him in the first. (Georgia coach) Kirby Smart said he is a little rough around the edges, but he is physical and he’s fast.”

          NFC scout: “He can’t catch, but he can run.”

          AFC scout: “He’s not the total package, but he has the physical qualities.”
          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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          • #35
            Stokes looks like a bit of a risk. Competitive, solid football player in SEC but had some growth areas he needs to work on. His speed and solid tape make him a really high upside late first rounder. I wouldn't call him a sure thing. I think they bet on the worker and the person a bit too. He wants to be good. Works to get better. Solid guy. I think the uspside and the person are what they bet on here.
            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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            • #36
              I'm gonna put this with the Rashan Gary pick as an extreme upside guy who you can count on you work hard to iron out the rough spots. Just like Gary, he's gonna will himself into a good player. And that Sam Shields speed don't hurt.
              Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                AND THE BIG DT ISAIAH
                Yeah, I'd like to get him before the day is over too, BTW, you left out his second H. I don't think he can play Corner, though hahahaha.
                What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                  Stokes looks like a bit of a risk. Competitive, solid football player in SEC but had some growth areas he needs to work on. His speed and solid tape make him a really high upside late first rounder. I wouldn't call him a sure thing. I think they bet on the worker and the person a bit too. He wants to be good. Works to get better. Solid guy. I think the uspside and the person are what they bet on here.
                  Even though he has all that athleticism, he appears to be pretty much polished too, playing at such a high level against SEC competition, etc. The risk would be that bad habit of holding, but they say the guy is intelligent and high character, so that should translate to coachable, and he should lose the bad habit - mostly anyway. We might not want him to give it up completely if he is adept at getting away with it. I've got a good feeling that Stokes is gonna be a bookend with Jaire sooner rather than later.
                  What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                    NFC scout: “He’s got great recovery skills. He’s go....snip
                    Well there's consensus on his speed, but almost nothing else. I can't imagine many CBs who started 2+ years in the SEC and run under a 4.3 last until the 4th or 5th round. I guess scouts are people like anyone else. They like to sound smarter than they might be.
                    Originally posted by 3irty1
                    This is museum quality stupidity.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Zool View Post
                      Well there's consensus on his speed, but almost nothing else. I can't imagine many CBs who started 2+ years in the SEC and run under a 4.3 last until the 4th or 5th round. I guess scouts are people like anyone else. They like to sound smarter than they might be.
                      Yeah, and they’re wrong every year. Some of the best players get passed over 3-4 times by every team abd crappier players taken first. These guys are pretty good, but over sure of themselves. And these are ones unnamed talking to media members. Not your who’s who of humility.
                      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                      • #41
                        There's rarely consensus on a player, especially one outside the top 15. All these college kids have warts. Overcoming them determines their NFL fate. I could see Stokes flaming out just as easily as him succeeding. I don't get future HOF vibes from the pick but I think he improves the talent in the CB room.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                          There's rarely consensus on a player, especially one outside the top 15. All these college kids have warts. Overcoming them determines their NFL fate. I could see Stokes flaming out just as easily as him succeeding. I don't get future HOF vibes from the pick but I think he improves the talent in the CB room.
                          Yep. Stokes is no sure thing. Packers betting on talent and the person but no sure thing at all.
                          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                          • #43
                            I have to admit hating yet another early db pick, but I believe now it was BPA and a perfect fit across from Jaire (something of an Al Davis- Wolfe / replace Sam Shields pick).

                            Now that the dust has settled and looking more into the kid, this is a bona fide steal. He's not gonna be Jaire (#1 CB1 in the nfl), but the kid is a stud with legit 4.2 speed. Only allowed 3 TDs the last three years against the best WRs the SEC has produced in years. Never got beat deep by the speedsters either. Nothing but accolades from coaches and everyone who knows him. Improved every year.

                            Don't see how he fails with Gray coaching. And he only needs to be CB2.

                            Regardless, the kid will be fun to watch develop. Not our typical settle for 2nd best or bottom of tier 1or 2 db pick. Legit

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