Report: Aaron Rodgers wants the Packers to fire G.M. Brian Gutekunst

[Packers4Glory]

Going left to right, I'm clear on AR/Bak/Hawk but whose to the right of Hawk? Also is that Cobb 2nd from the right? Whose to the far right?

yes that's Cobb. one of the guys is Miles Teller or someone.

[sharpe1027]

I've never said absolutely that Aaron didn't leak it. I said the team is the most likely based on what I've heard. I also believe Hawk and others that are and were close to Aaron have a better feel for what's real and what isn't than you or me. duh. So of course I'm going to lean heavily on those opinions. If they were saying something else opposite of what I was thinking I'd be listening to that and probably would change my opinion. This isn't that hard.

Teams and leagues have been excellent in the NFL and MLB at getting things out and trying to get fans on their side instead of the players side in the PR battle. They're setting the narrative. these little leaks like wanting Gute fired getting out there, start to turn people against Aaron when the initial perception is "WTF are the packers doing?" People like you eat the franchise's ass like it's your job without allowing for any other possibility.

Get out of your (mom's?) basement and calm the fuck down. He didn't claim to know for sure where the leaks came from any more than you. He's not eating the franchises ass in what he wrote. It was a measured statement that isn't very controversial. Go have a couple stuff drinks, get laid, and calm down. The personal attacks highlight just how poorly you're doing.

[Packers4Glory]

Get out of your (mom's?) basement and calm the fuck down. He didn't claim to know for sure where the leaks came from any more than you. He's not eating the franchises ass in what he wrote. It was a measured statement that isn't very controversial. Go have a couple stuff drinks, get laid, and calm down. The personal attacks highlight just how poorly you're doing.

Nah.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Jordan wanted Kruse fired. All they did was win 6 rings together.

Not saying that the Great Arm of Butte and the German Shepherd will win 6 rings together. But if they learn to coexist, maybe they’ll win 1. That being said, management tends to be the pig’s bootlickers. Therefore, I am 100% Pro-Rodgers.

[texaspackerbacker]

Have I EVER said Plus 1 to you before?

[Upnorth]

Have I EVER said Plus 1 to you before?

Lol cats sleeping with dogs

[RashanGary]

Jordan wanted Kruse fired. All they did was win 6 rings together.

Not saying that the Great Arm of Butte and the German Shepherd will win 6 rings together. But if they learn to coexist, maybe they’ll win 1. That being said, management tends to be the pig’s bootlickers. Therefore, I am 100% Pro-Rodgers.

I kind of agree, but im pro Sitton, Lang, Nelson and Aaron Jones too. I don't like the business at all. Its cold. They act like team and family and they aren't. Then they complain when players stop acting like they're all in it together when management never was. I'm pro-player. If I could do it over again id be pro favre. And I'm pro Rodgers now. In your terms, I hate the capitalist establishment. I think its a little deeper than that, but its all broken and sad.

[Packers4Glory]

Capitalist establishment. Ok. lol

[George Cumby]

I think its a little deeper than that, but its all broken and sad.

It's like 2008, a soap opera, an historical disaster, a Shakespearean play, a Greek Tragedy.

Human frailty; arrogance, pathos, lack of humility, stupidity, incompetence.

Drumbeats of the human story.

[RashanGary]

It's like 2008, a soap opera, an historical disaster, a Shakespearean play, a Greek Tragedy.

Human frailty; arrogance, pathos, lack of humility, stupidity, incompetence.

Drumbeats of the human story.

These systems have no human soul in them. It's everyone out for themselves. I know I sound stupid to people raised in this because it's so normal to people, but it's not good. It's not a good system and the NFL is cold like the rest of the established culture we live in.

[George Cumby]

These systems have no human soul in them. It's everyone out for themselves. I know I sound stupid to people raised in this because it's so normal to people, but it's not good. It's not a good system and the NFL is cold like the rest of the established culture we live in.

I think we are talking about different things at different levels.

I'm talking about how human weakness is the driving factor in this story, not just on Rodgers' part, but Gutes as well.

You're looking at it through the lens of system failure. I don't disagree with your point there, BTW.

[sharpe1027]

Rodgers has every right to force the issue if he wants out, he just needs to be prepared to face the consequences. I won't feel sorry for him if he gets traded to a shit team, or is out of football. He's a grown man that can understand the consequences of his actions. I also see that the Packers organization is a lot of different individuals, including employees and players. They need to make good decisions for the long term health of the franchise.

I don't get the extreme views on either side.

[RashanGary]

I think we are talking about different things at different levels.

I'm talking about how human weakness is the driving factor in this story, not just on Rodgers' part, but Gutes as well.

You're looking at it through the lens of system failure. I don't disagree with your point there, BTW.

Oh cool, I thought you were being sarcastic

[RashanGary]

Rodgers has every right to force the issue if he wants out, he just needs to be prepared to face the consequences. I won't feel sorry for him if he gets traded to a shit team, or is out of football. He's a grown man that can understand the consequences of his actions. I also see that the Packers organization is a lot of different individuals, including employees and players. They need to make good decisions for the long term health of the franchise.

I don't get the extreme views on either side.

Honestly, I'm at a point is rather just see the pack stay loyal, like a team or family and lose. I know it's not gonna happen, but the coldness of the NFL isn't enjoyable to me.

[sharpe1027]

Honestly, I'm at a point is rather just see the pack stay loyal, like a team or family and lose. I know it's not gonna happen, but the coldness of the NFL isn't enjoyable to me.

Loyal to whom? To Rodgers? How have they been disloyal? If Rodgers wants out and the Organization wants him to stay, who's being disloyal?